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EricHiggin said:

Pemalite said:

Yeah, nah. Anything that can be asserted with zero evidence, can be discarded with zero evidence.

So much like the answer above?

Exactly!

EricHiggin said:

Well if God exists in the form many believe, all powerful and ever living, then they also have a pretty horrific record of abuse, so why should they be worshiped as you said?

If the Bible is supposedly a "historical" account, then the Religion has a brutal and bloody history... And I cannot possibly support it... And I honestly don't think anyone should.

EricHiggin said:

If some of the many books are known to be fiction and you take all words in the story to mean what is laid out as is, then your worldview would be out to left field.

Well. It's like having a conversation with someone, you take them at face value until you have the evidence that says otherwise.
You have to give them the benefit of a doubt.

Same goes with the Middle-Eastern, Abrahamic Religions like Christianity, Islam and Judaism, you need to take their statements at face value and not twist things around to be something different.

EricHiggin said:

All day everyday in life we have to try and ascertain what was truly meant based on what was said or written, since human beings aren't walking fact machines or dictionaries, so you can't just take everything as how it seems or you will eventually pay for it in many ways. You even said yourself that you weren't being serious when you said "if Jesus was a God, then he couldn't die anyway, making his sacrifice a useless affair". Then you implied that the point was that I shouldn't have taken it seriously, when there really was no clear indication you were joking. Should I still assume you were serious?

Sarcasm is a bit different.
But you are correct, that in any serious context you need to take it at face value until you have the evidence that says otherwise. (Like myself stating I am not being serious.)



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