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EricHiggin said:

Pemalite said: 

Now you are delving into hypotheticals.

There are large swathes of the world where religion is leveraged to ban things like contraception which assists the out-of-control population growth. - Many religions are also against Abortion.

Maybe Religion is actually the real problem? 

The more advanced an economy generally becomes, the more secular it generally becomes and generally the lower it's natural population growth via births and deaths becomes and thus needs to be bolstered via immigration.
I know correlation isn't causation, but it's an interesting note.

So your saying people should bang their brains out and expect to get away without dealing with the logical consequences? Don't live life like everything is easy and free seems pretty logical to me.

Typically that path leads to the demise of that economy/society eventually, and not all that long down the road. Religion is like a large main block of the base of a pyramid. Slowly chip away at that block and the whole thing crumbles.

Pemalite said:

Well it would make me someone who isn't gullible.

But how would he put billions of non-con men to shame?

Sometimes being gullible is necessary. More so in large, major, immediate events. Well as far as we know he actually practiced what he preached, and what he preached was pretty logical and peaceful. Not entirely, but in comparison, peaceful. How many of us can say the same about ourselves?

But how does that hold up to the fact that the most prosperous nations are also among the most secular while the poorest nations are fairly religious?

Jesus was a human like all of us and had the same human flaws like we do. So yes, I can say about myself that I am at least quite similar to a human like Jesus.



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