Pemalite said:
EricHiggin said:
Partly. It was mostly fueled by the belief that the Germans were the superior race. The reason we hold human life at the highest level, is because of religion.
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I don't hold human life at a high-level because of religion, nor do the majority of people I work with. - I am in multiple rescue agencies.
I hold human life to a high level because of empathy... And I have empathy because of experience and not wanting to be in the position someone else is in because of various electro-chemical processes that govern things like pain, sadness and general uncomfort.
Religion isn't a prerequisite to being a good, thoughtful individual... If religion is "good". - Then 10's of millions of people wouldn't have been murdered in their Gods name, the Christian God being no exception.
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You think because your nice to people that they won't harm you? What did the Jews ever do to Hitler? What did the Dems ever do to Trump? Are religion and survival one and the same? If another group of people are going to kill you and all of your people, does it matter what religion they, or you hold at that point?
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Pemalite said:
EricHiggin said:
Logically, allowing other people to take resources that you (your people, your Country) could eventually need, is a bad idea. Allowing other people to advance and potentially bring war and death to you, is a bad idea. If climate change is indeed correct, even with technological advancements, millions and more may suffer, and partially because of too many people being part of the pollution problem. If Thanos could make half of the pop vanish into thin air, it would solve a lot of problems for the time being. If those people have no ties to you whatsoever, and don't even impact your life indirectly, then why worry about their well being? Animals will kill other animals, even the same species, even by blood, for the 'dumbest' reasons. Why? No religion. Just survival.
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Now you are delving into hypotheticals.
There are large swathes of the world where religion is leveraged to ban things like contraception which assists the out-of-control population growth. - Many religions are also against Abortion.
Maybe Religion is actually the real problem?
The more advanced an economy generally becomes, the more secular it generally becomes and generally the lower it's natural population growth via births and deaths becomes and thus needs to be bolstered via immigration.
I know correlation isn't causation, but it's an interesting note.
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So your saying people should bang their brains out and expect to get away without dealing with the logical consequences? Don't live life like everything is easy and free seems pretty logical to me.
Typically that path leads to the demise of that economy/society eventually, and not all that long down the road. Religion is like a large main block of the base of a pyramid. Slowly chip away at that block and the whole thing crumbles.
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Pemalite said:
EricHiggin said:
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Pemalite said:
Nah.
Another hypothesis is that Jesus was just a con-man who conned billions of people with fairy-tales and magic tricks.
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Maybe, but if Jesus really was a con man, as a con man, he's put billions of non con men to shame since his time on this planet. What does that make us?
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Well it would make me someone who isn't gullible.
But how would he put billions of non-con men to shame?
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Sometimes being gullible is necessary. More so in large, major, immediate events. Well as far as we know he actually practiced what he preached, and what he preached was pretty logical and peaceful. Not entirely, but in comparison, peaceful. How many of us can say the same about ourselves?
