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padib said:
aiwass said:

He "sacrificed" himself (he's God, so I don't imagine it's too much of an inconvenience), gets to come back to life, AND gets to go to Heaven in the end. What about mortal people who have died in more gruesome ways in selfless acts who DON'T get to come back to life? Ultimately, the whole story isn't that impressive even if you believe it.

Why did he supposedly do it? I dunno, seems like absurd theatre for a timeless creator of the universe who takes a vested interest in where people place their reproductive organs.

I sincerely sought it out for the majority of my life. Being surrounded by believers made it a profound inconvenience not to be convinced by this stuff. I still appreciate the church community and wish I still had the friendships that I lost due to my deconversion. As an omnipotent, all-knowing agent who knows exactly how many hairs are on my head, he would also know exactly what criteria is necessary to convince me of the religion. This quote, I'm sorry to say, is a load of old waffle.

You have to look for the difference, if you sincerely sought him (and I believe you).

You know, there is a difference between people dying gruesome deaths like any other human, after having lived, drank, made love and basically lived a normal human life, plus or minus some vices or virtues. But Jesus was God (as claimed), dying at the hands of his beloved creation in longing to save them. That is not just the death of a martyr, it is a declaration of love, one that many profess in love but only one did it fully while being perfectly good and blameless.

Do you see how his death is different?

Who claims Jesus was God?

That is not how it is written down,God did create Jesus using an ancient spirit from the heavens and he used the image of himself but that does not make jesus into God.

 

Revelation 4:11

You are worthy, Jehovah* our God, to receive the glorya and the honorb and the power,c because you created all things,d and because of your will they came into existence and were created.”

Luke3:38:

 son of Eʹnosh,ason of Seth,bson of Adam,cson of God.

John 1:49:

Na·thanʹa·el responded: “Rabbi, you are the Son of God, you are King of Israel.”

Colossians 1:15 :

 He is the image of the invisible God,a the firstborn of all creation;b

Micah 5:2:

And you, O Bethʹle·hem Ephʹra·thah,aThe one too little to be among the thousands*of Judah,From you will come out for me the one to be ruler in Israel,bWhose origin is from ancient times, from the days of long ago.

john 6;38:

for I have come down from heavena to do, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.b