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Eagle367 said:
Pemalite said:

It's actually very pragmatic.
If assertions cannot be justified with empirical evidence.... I.E. Sin, God, Hell and so on, then they can be discarded.

Nope because will and emotions by design make no sense through an empirical analysis. You can't measure emotion, intelligence, will and only consequences of it. Any biological being that feels in any way cannot be put in a box with just empirical evidence. I would say it's very close minded rather than pragmatic. Which is funny since atheists like to call religious people close minded without actually acknowledging any benefit of religion. The scientific method cannot and should not be applied everywhere, it was never meant to be applied everywhere and it can be very destructive whent Ake to the extreme, just as most extremes can be.

Without religion, it would be tough to scientifically reason that stopping Hitler was the right thing to do. If he and his people are tougher, smarter, more organized, etc, why not let them advance? Isn't that the reason for allowing tech to advance, because it's better than what exists now in terms of benefiting those who use that tech to their advantage? Tech may not have feelings now, but what about if we ever create true AI? Are we not allowed to discard and toss the old outdated units aside because they are, or seem conscious?

Pemalite said:
mhsillen said:
But God would not allow this to go on forever. A perfect man sinned so to cover this he had to send a perfect man to cover this of course this was Jesus. A perfect man died to cover our sins. Of course God is perfect and his plan of an earthly paradise will happen. God will take 144.000 humans as co rulers with Christ. And the rest of God fearing humans will have a home on earth and grow to perfection. There is much more but my brain is tired

Well. Jesus of the Abrahamic Bible never really died did he? If Jesus is the Son of God, then he himself is God and God is supposed to be everything and something that is everything cannot possibly die, right? Making the entire self-sacrifice circle a pointless affair.

Jesus is like the necessary scientific test to prove the theory. Let's just say God thought he knew everything, like some humans do, but needed to put it to the test physically to prove it.