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Politics Discussion - Brexit - View Post

JRPGfan said:
Scoobes said:
I have to ask (I'm probably going to regret this), what do some of you guys think "no deal" actually means?

It means they have absolutely no withdrawal agreements in place, at the time the leave is finalised.

It means that the UK does NOT get 21months + more to slowly adjust to the new ways of doing things.
There will be a day where suddenly, when no trade can happend again until, you have deals in place again and worked out the bussiness side of things.

UK bussiness will have to follow the law, so there will be a delay periode where they probably cant do much bussiness.
UK reverts to World Trade Rules, on international trade, and lose the benefits the single markets gave them (when dealing with other EU countries).
Tarrifs would force the prices of certain things up, and could result in some UK work force being moved away from the UK.


UK gains controll over immigration.
However UK citizens working the EU might find their qualifications no longer apply in the EU, and wont be able to work there based on them anymore.
There would have to be much tougher safty controll when sailing or flying between EU and UK.

UK can choose to adopt, the laws they supported, when they where members of the EU, and put them into their own.
UK no longer has to follow EU court of law, or the EU court of Human Rights.

 

The UK doesnt have to pay a member fee anymore (~13bn).
The farmers wont get ~4bn back from the EU as support to their industry. You might see food prices rise in the UK.

There will be a Hard Border placed between Northen Irland and Southern Irland.
You might need a pass to cross over from one to another, and pass through safty checks.

 

Thats about it.

Pretty good enumeration

Some things to add:

Almost all imports and exports will get more expensive until trade deals are realized.

Since the UK is heavily reliant on food imports, foods will get much more expensive from the 1-2 punch of import taxes and the loss of EU subsidies in that... ehem...field.

You were talking about UK citizens potentially no longer meeting qualifications in the EU (mostly that means that they will have to have a job or be retired to be able to stay over long term, just like any other non-refugee from a non-EU country), but the reverse would also be true. Considering that many EU citizens work for the NHS, and the latter already being critically short on staff, this could potentially deal a heavy blow to UK healthcare.

As for trading at WTO rules, UK already stated copying the EU schedules (how the EU trades with any country they have no trade deal with). However, the EU, due to it's sheer economic size, has a better negotiation position that the UK alone. Hence why Taiwan already stated that they won't accept trading with the UK under those rules. Not all is bad though, as the UK can still get better deals for them since the ones from the EU are tailored to benefit the Union as a whole, not specific countries.