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phinch1 said:
Stocko2k17 said:

We haven't left yet you fool, I love how people say 'employment is up despite Brexit', yet we still haven't left have we?

Maybe stop focusing on yourself and see how this will effect our employment of NHS workers, doctors and manufacturing industries after we leave the single market.

I'm not fear mongering, I'm listening to facts and not getting deluded by ideas of 'getting our sovereignty back' or blue bloody passports.

Fact it, if we leave GDP decreases, the economy decreases - this has been proven - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46366162 - 3.9% decrease under May's plan or 9.3% under a 'no deal scenario' - I don't think that was on the voting slip, no?

No matter how much you want to sugar coat it of 'cheaper food on WTO' if people are poorer, they can't buy any food can they?

You can say 'hurrah' to more employment now, BUT WE HAVEN'T LEFT YET. 

Like I said, if you can read? We were told by just "voting to leave" the £ would collapse and we'd be in a recession (before we even leave)

 

It hasn't

 

We have 63 thousand EU NHS workers we also have 3.8 million EU Nationals living in the UK

So EU workers living here definitely put more stress on the NHS than help

Those statistics, interesting they're the same people who predicted the recession, and the instant job losses, (which again they were wrong on) why should anyone believe they're predictions now? It's fear mongering at its finest

The £ did collapse.

The BoE staved off recession by reducing the interest rates to 0.25% and pumping an additional £70 billion into the economy (quantitative easing is generally not a good sign). We were also fortunate that the global economy improved.

EU migrants pay in more than they take out, are far more likely to be of working age and therefore will rarely use the NHS. On the other hand we have a shortage of staff and a government that isn't training enough UK doctors and nurses. EU workers do not put more stress on the NHS than they contribute to it either directly via working for the NHS or indirectly through taxes.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/economics/about-department/fiscal-effects-immigration-uk

 

At the moment you're arguing how it's not as bad as people made it out... but how is leaving with no deal going to improve your life?