Why did Jesus Christ sacrifice his self for you?

[AbbathTheGrim]

aiwass said:

I sincerely sought it out for the majority of my life. Being surrounded by believers made it a profound inconvenience not to be convinced by this stuff. I still appreciate the church community and wish I still had the friendships that I lost due to my deconversion. As an omnipotent, all-knowing agent who knows exactly how many hairs are on my head, he would also know exactly what criteria is necessary to convince me of the religion. This quote, I'm sorry to say, is a load of old waffle.

I have no idea how I missed this nice post. If it weren't for danasider quoting you up there I would have missed it.

That line I put on bold right there is something I thought about around a year ago.

The god-thing as is proposed by believers sell him as an all-knowing god that knows exactly what it takes to convince you that he is real.

Believers claim the god-thing approaches everyone at some point in their lives to let them know he is real.

With that extract of religious mythology in mind the conclusion is the following: there could not exist a single person who is not a believer because...

A) God knows everything so he knows what will take to convince you

B) God doesn't make mistakes.

C) He will make an effort to let you know he is real (how can he fail at the action of letting you know he is real when he knows what it takes to convert anyone and is capable of accomplishing anything? People are imperfect and are bound to misread the alleged "message")

D) People still don't believe and, in the case of the Christian religion (but any religion applies as well), most people don't accept Jesus as the true son of god

 

- If there are still people who don't believe, then that poses the following questions:

 

1) God knew exactly what it would take to convert a person, why didn't he made the right approach? I mean, he can do anything.

2) If god knew the approach would fail, why even try at all? You could claim god doesn't approach everyone, I guess, but that would pose the question: why doesn't god approach everyone and why am I guilty of not believing in god when god has not approached me the way he has approached other people?

Of course, this is all a game of playing with the mythology of particular religions. The fact of the matter is that none of those questions and claims should even matter when the existence of said god is so outside of the descriptive nature of reality that you cannot even define what a god is, but instead have people giving their own interpretations of what they feel and come up with when they think of the idea of a "god".

Last edited by AbbathTheGrim - on 14 January 2019