jason1637 said:
Machiavellian said:
Yes, they do try to come to the US but you are talking about illegally crossing. This is the part where you have to show that number represent people cross illegally over the southern boarder not just general numbers coming to the US. Also that graph shows how much illegal immigration has fallen during the years. The problem with the wall as shone by a few links in this thread is that if you believe 5.6 billion is going to really do anything you are kidding yourself. As many expert on the subject has stated, such an engineering project is a huge task costing north of 50 Billion.
Ask yourself exactly where will Trump build this perfect wall. There is no plan because its a talking point not a real project. It's the same plan he had for healthcare where he stated he had a plan but end of having nothing. If he had a plan he would be presenting it to show the American public how much work he and his administration has put into getting this beautiful wall in place. How much will this cover and where, who land will get confiscated to do it. It's a political game and he really isn't trying to negotiate because that is when we really see how incompetent his administration is when they have to actually put it into place.
I personally want him to go the Emergency route. I want him to play that card and then show us what his administration plan is for the project. I want to see all the GOP support him going this route because we know, once you open that Pandora box, they will have fun times when a Dem President get into the WH. When all is said and done, the GOP will fall on this sword supporting Trump and it will be interesting to see how the party fares afterwards.
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The spending bill has already been written. But the current bill only gave 1.3 billion to border security while Trump wants 5.6 billion. Personally I think the 50 billion for a wall is bs. 5.6 billion should be enough if you budget correctly.
If the democrats don't agree to increase border spending then yeah I'd like to see the emergency route so the government can open up.
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The Dems are more then happy to give him funding for boarder security, they are not going to give a dime to the wall
I believe you will get your wish because I see nothing so far that will make the Dems fold and Trump really has not offered anything but demands. As long as the polls favor the Dems, why would the move on this issue. Playing the National Emergency card has a lot of risk and if it fails he will look even worst. Its the whole reason he keeps the threats without pulling the trigger. Anyway, I am tried of him making the threat, he should pull the trigger and let see what happens.
