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Machiavellian on 11 January 2019
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jason1637 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Your 710,000 figure is from 2010 to 2015.  This is from page 4 of your PDF.  That's not per year.

 

Let's think about it.  That huge caravan thing we had recently was just 5-7k asylum seeking immigrants.  To reach 710,000 per year, there would need to be hundreds of these per year. I'm only using it as a number reference.  Obviously the caravan is a separate issue but it gives a comparable figure and perspective to work with.

710k in 5 years is in the hundred thousands but not all of that number includes border crossings. 

A lot of people that came from the Caravan were apprehended iirc so they would be included in the table i posted a few pages back. That graph does show that tens of thousands of people per month do try to come from the southern border. The whole situation si pretty sad honestly since a lot of these people are trying to flee annd create a better life for their families but as a country we can't just let people enter without proper documentation.

Yes, they do try to come to the US but you are talking about illegally crossing.  This is the part where you have to show that number represent people cross illegally over the southern boarder not just general numbers coming to the US.  Also that graph shows how much illegal immigration has fallen during the years.  The problem with the wall as shone by a few links in this thread is that if you believe 5.6 billion is going to really do anything you are kidding yourself.  As many expert on the subject has stated, such an engineering project is a huge task costing north of 50 Billion.

Ask yourself exactly where will Trump build this perfect wall.  There is no plan because its a talking point not a real project.  It's the same plan he had for healthcare where he stated he had a plan but end of having nothing.  If he had a plan he would be presenting it to show the American public how much work he and his administration has put into getting this beautiful wall in place.  How much will this cover and where, who land will get confiscated to do it.  It's a political game and he really isn't trying to negotiate because that is when we really see how incompetent his administration is when they have to actually put it into place.

I personally want him to go the Emergency route.  I want him to play that card and then show us what his administration plan is for the project.  I want to see all the GOP support him going this route because we know, once you open that Pandora box, they will have fun times when a Dem President get into the WH.  When all is said and done, the GOP will fall on this sword supporting Trump and it will be interesting to see how the party fares afterwards.