DélioPT said:
Miyamotoo said:
You again having hard time with logic..Wii also was huge succes and from all those games received only CoD, so buy your point Wii also wasnt succes because didnt recived those games at all, or because Switch still didnt recived those games yet.
Demographic of Switch and XB1/PS4 isn't same, 43% of Switch user base are 25-34 years people while for instance 18. years old or less represent only 20%. That's quite different compared to PS4/XB1 user demographic.
"Kinda makes you think how sustainable this success will be in the long run, doesn't it"!? Not at all, how Switch will be more and more appealing device how is getting more releases and divers games, price point getting down and getting revisions. For instance how price point going down, kid user demographic will significantly be changed, same like for people that will buy Switch like secondary device.
You realy dont get Nintendo at all, they act and making different strategies compared to Sony/MS on purpose, they know they have best chanches for succes if they dont compete with them head to head thats they trying difrent things. You dont get that Switch is already alternative to PS4/XB1, PS4 and XB1 are very similar but Switch is console that actually quite different and offer direct experienced to them, that why plenty of PS4/XB1 owners bought it like secondary console. Offcourse it would be better that Switch has all 3rd party games, but they couldn't do Switch like hybrid console for $300 and to have for instance similar tech/power like XB1/PS4, in other words Switch will sell much better than that would Nintendo clone of PS4/XB1.
Those games would make some difference, but they are not key for success for Nintendo hardware like they are for MS/Sony consoles, Wii, DS, 3DS and now Switch are clear example of that. Switch is already success and it will be much bigger success (Switch will hardly sell less than 80m and easiily can do 100m+) despite those games.
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"Wii also was huge success (…)"
Yes, it was. Not because it competed directly with PS3 and Xb360, but because they went after a completely different market.
I don't know what the age demographic is on a age by age basis. Still, i said similar, not equal. And the 70% of users for the US market prove that.
"Switch will be more and more appealing device how is getting more releases and divers games, price point getting down and getting revisions."
It's a possibility. But we are not talking about diversity for the sake of diversity, we are talking about meaningful diversity - you know, the CODs, GTAs, etc.etc. That's what most Switch users buy on their main systems.
Systems like PS2, SNES and other aren't remembered by the sheer quantity of titles. It's the exclusives, the big 3rd party titles that always come up first when talking about systems like those.
"You dont get that Switch is already alternative to PS4/XB1"
That's strange… i'd swear Switch had no impact on PS4 and XB1 and that only 30% of US Switch owners didn't have a PS4 or XB1.
We must have different visions on what "alternative" means.
Or maybe we don't: "that's why plenty of PS4/XB1 owners bought it like secondary console."
I'm not asking for a clone. What i've always said is that 3rd party games are the reason consoles succeed… in a normal situation.
Nintendo knows this and if they decide to make a system that can't handle them, then they know the risks.
So far, Switch has enough reasons to correct that flaw, but what made Switch a success (all of this things) happen once in a blue moon and won't last forever.
As i said to you before: they have one a battle, but not the war.
Switch is a device like no other and it's also living off of whatever userbase PS4 and XB1 create.
I wouldn't be so quick to say this or that about Switch's future when it's real test still hasn't come: compete with new platforms.
zorg1000 said:
The logic you are using is pretty backwards.
The fact that a high percentage of Switch owners also own a PS4/XBO shows that PS4/XBO owners are buying a Switch for experiences not found on the systems they already own so missing out on the games you are speaking of is not going to affect Switch in any meaningful way.
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But Switch is also is aiming different market also in same time, because hybrid nature it aims handheld market also, thats huge difference compared to PS4/XB1.
Thats 70% of Switch owners in US that also have PS4/XB1, not 70% owners of all PS4/XB1 owners in US.
Are you serious!? Switch owners buying Switch on first place to play Nintendo games and exclusives, and those games on first place are reeason why so many PS4/XB1 owners buying Switch, only after that coming multiplatform games.
Plenty of things changed from SNES and PS2 on market, Nintendo changed big time after GameCube.
You do realise that only proves my point!? Fact is that Switch dont effect on PS4/XB1 sales, and PS4/XB1 sales dont effect on Switch sales proves that Switch alternative to PS4/XB1 and that can coexist on market despite point that they are also selling great, fact that 70% Switch owners in US also has PS4/XB1 also proves that.
"What i've always said is that 3rd party games are the reason consoles succeed… in a normal situation". But thats a point, Nintendo has much higher chances by releasing console that's not normal or typical, also last few generations 3rd party games are not reason for Nintendo succes, but you fail to see that. Switch is success, period, it only remains how big success will be, it has chances passing Wii numbers and becoming second best selling Nintendo hardware after DS.
But that a point, Switch will keep selling despite PS5/XB2 because even then it will be different like its different currently compared to PS4/XB1 and because of that plenty of PS4/XB1 owners also buying Switch.
Like I wrote you in other thread and like others point in this thread, your points or logic dont make sense at all, so I again dont see point continue with this and I will not reply to you any more.
Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 01 October 2018
