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Miyamotoo on 26 September 2018
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Dr.Vita said:
Miyamotoo said: 

Coming from person that said Sackboy, Aloy, Cole MacGrath are popular characters, dont put too much faith and sense in your post. :D

I own PS1, PS2, PSP and PS4 when we talk about PS consoles. Hole gaming market knows about all characters that I mentioned and actualy plenty of people outside gaming because you have merchandise, toys, even Nintendo characters toys in Happy Meals, but same cant be said for characters that you mentioned.

No, it's difficult for you to realise that Nintendo characters and IPs can be more popular than Sonys, in recent time you had too many salty posts regardless Nintendo and Switch and how time is passing you will have more and more of them. :)

I never said that the Playstation icons are more popular than the Nintendo icons. I said that some Playstation icons are just as popular as Yoshi, Kirby, Toad, Peach or Bowser and that Sony has more of them. Then I listed a few Playstation examples. I also said that Pikachu and Mario are the only Nintendo icons that are way more popular than the Playstation one's and that Playstation doesn't have icons that are on the same level as them. And this is only the case because Nintendo milked the sh*t out of these franchises for decades. On the other hand Sony has made new IP's in every new generation. Just look at Naughty Dog or Insomniac Games for example. On PS1 they did Crash Bandicoot and Spyro, on PS2 they did Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & Clank, on PS3 they did Uncharted and Resistance and on PS4 they do The Last of Us and Spiderman. Such a diversity doesn't exist in Nintendo games, Nintendo always uses the same characters console after console. If Sony had used Crash Bandicoot as a mascot since PS1 for all consoles he would have been way more popular than he is today. Maybe even at Mario level, who knows? The biggest Playstation icon today is without a doubt Kratos and guess what? He's one of the oldest Playstation icons who is still used today. Started on the PS2 and still has games with him on PS4. If Sony continue with God of War he will become more and more popular with the time. Basically the same thing with Pikachu and Mario. Maybe we will see him one day as a character toy in Happy Meals (which is btw a really stupid argument to use for something's popularity). If you really own all these Playstations consoles it really surprises me that you have never heard of these Playstation icons. LittleBigPlanet has avery popular game on PSP and there is also LittleBigPlanet 3 on PS4. Horizon was a huge blackbuster game on PS4 and it is only one year old. InFamous should also be known by a person who owns so many Playstation platforms. Someone with 4 Playstation platforms should have a little bit more knowledge about Playstation exclusives. I guess you don't play very often on them but why bother and buy 4 Playstation consoles then? 

But thats a point, even characters like Luigi, Yoshi, Kirby, Toad, Donkey Kong, Peach or Bowser are generaly more popular than most of Sony because plenty of people heard for them even if they are outside of gaming simple because they are so long on market with plenty of games and actually merchandise and toys, while if you are in gaming you heard for Kratos, Nathan Drake and Ratchet and thats it, but hardly someone outside gaming heard for them. So only we can say that Sony only have 3 somehow popular characters, while Nintendo have around 10 with 2 that are probably among most popular in world.

Rest of post dont have anything with our discussion, I didn't discuss why they are Nintendo characters so popular, but you right, Sony rearly stick to some characters, only Kratos, Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & Clank are 3 generations on market and only Kratos could be called stronger character from them, also one of problems for PS character popularity and recognisability and reason why Nintendo characters are much stronger is that most of Nintendo characters all have their name in name of game among other things, Luigi's Mansion, Donkey Kong Country, Legend of Zelda, Kirby Adventures, Yoshi Flip Island, Captain Toad, Mario 3D World... I played LittleBigPlanet on PSP but I didnt had idea he is sackboy, I dont like type of games like InFamous so I didnt play Second Son so I dont have idea whats a name of that character, I planing to play Horizon but I also didnt had idea whats name of main character, so you see pattern here, even if you are in gaming you needed to play those games in order to know who are characters you mention (in case of of Big Planet even that didnt helped), while in case of Nintendo even if you didnt play their games you definatly heard about all their characters that I mentioned and good chanches you heard for some of them even if you are not in gaming at all. Also, Nintendo has much more characters, I mention only some of strongest, I even didnt mention characters like Pikmin/Olimar, Samus, Lucario, Villager, Fox, Pit, Roy, Wario, Pokémon Trainer, Diddy Kong, Mewtwo.... Also few take offs, Spiderman is comix and movie characters first not gaming character (its same like you said that Batman is gaming character), Happy Meal is just one arguments how Nintendo characters are spread on market even otuside gaming also Nintendo is now building theme park so they will be even much more popular.  I bought PS4 to play multiplatform games and exclusives like Uncharted games, TLoU and Bloodborne.

 

Dr.Vita said: 
Alex_The_Hedgehog said: 

No, you are the one wrong. Nintendo is not only about Pikachu and Mario.

What about Zelda? Geez, Nintendo 64 sold a lot less than the first Playstation and even so people acknowledges Ocarina of Time as one of the best games ever made. A Link to the past, the original Zelda, etc.

What about Metroid? The Game Cube was totally overshadowed by the Playstation 2 and yet, what is the most acclaimed First Person Shooter that gen? Metroid Prime. What about Super Metroid?

Well, judging by your history on VG Chartz, it's clear that you don't like Nintendo. But please, try to be a bit more reasonable.

Also, respect other people's opinion.

Ocarina of Time is claimed to be the best game ever mostly by Nintendo fans. 

Metroid is not a very popular series among casual people and who defined it as the most acclaimed First Person Shooter that gen? This is mostly said by Nintendo fans. Even if this was true during PS2/Gamecube era First Person Shooter weren't that popular and they were not many of them. The big FIrst Party Shooter rise began during PS3/X360 era with Modern Warfare 1. 

Where is the problem if I tell my honest opinion about Nintendo and their games? As long as I don't attack anyone or anything it should be fine to express how I feel about the company. As long as someone can explain his view in a reasonable way it should be no problem for him/her to express his/her opinion. And I really would like to know where I was not reasonable with my posts in this thread?

No, it's generally claimed like best game of all time based on critics reviews not buy Nintendo fans, and actualy thats one of reasons why Nintendo characters are so popular and recognisable, Nintendo games very often are great games that get great attention even outside gaming, even now, two most critically acclaimed games this gen are Nintendo games, Zelda and Mario.

https://www.businessinsider.com/50-best-games-all-time-critics-2017-3

 

Yeah, Metroid is definitely not among more popular Nintendo's IPs, and Samus is even less reconsible and popular, only people that are in gaming heard for Metroid.

Because every your post sound like Nintendo vs Sony, we're you rising Sony and downplaying Nintendo.

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 26 September 2018