MICROSOFT results Q4 and Full Year earnings. Huge.

[DonFerrari]

Jranation said:

 That looks pretty good (we always knew Microsoft as a whole is doing great) 

 

DonFerrari said:

Good numbers but never hw sales or information that sales site can really discuss.

Yeah! Its only Nintendo that always gives numbers. I guess its not a requirement to release those numbers. 

Nope, public traded companies have no need to report their sales or anything similar. They report revenue, profit, earning per share, etc and also doesn't have to do any breakdown per department

Azzanation said:

DonFerrari said:
Good numbers but never hw sales or information that sales site can really discuss.

Profit/Revenue > Sales figures

In a sales sites no it isn't.

And we don't really have a Profit/Revenue of the consoles or MS SW because it at least is contaminated with 3rd party royalties.

Or can you help us determine how much Profit and Revenue X1 brought as a console or SoT, SoD2 and others did?

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Drakrami said:

I dont feel XboxOne is doing too well... how are their numbers up 39%?

What's in the gaming division? Is Skype, windows games and etc... still in this division or..?

Ok I just googled my own question. 

 

Entertainment and Devices Division

Entertainment and Devices Division ("EDD") develops and markets products and services designed to entertain and connect people. The Xbox entertainment platform, including Kinect, is designed to provide a unique variety of entertainment choices through the use of our devices, peripherals, content, and online services. Skype is designed to connect friends, family, clients, and colleagues through a variety of devices. Windows Phone is designed to bring users closer to the people, applications, and content they need, while providing unique capabilities such as Microsoft Office and Xbox LIVE. Through a strategic alliance, Windows Phone and Nokia are jointly creating new mobile products and services and extending established product and services to new markets. EDD revenue also includes revenue from licensing mobile-related patents.

Principal Products and Services:  Xbox 360 gaming and entertainment console, Kinect for Xbox 360, Xbox 360 video games, Xbox 360 accessories; Xbox LIVE; Skype; and Windows Phone.

 

So in view of this, how is the "gaming division" numbers relevant when its mixed with Skype and PC games, and Windows Phone? 

That's totally outdated

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/earnings/FY-2018-Q4/metrics

If you hover over the different subdivisions, you'll see what the income is made of. In case of gaming, it says "Revenue dollars from Xbox consoles, Xbox live services, First party games and third party games royalties"

One dark spot to those good overall numbers though: XBL monthly active users dropped from 59M to 57M

The biggest issue is putting the royalties together with all else which make us have no idea of how they really are doing on a console/sw sales discussion forum.

pxrocks said:
This is what happens when you have more online subscription on the platform than actual exclusive games.this actually proves that consumer don't care about exclusives.i hope playstation and Nintendo take note and create more online subscription services rather than investing in expensive exclusive games(which PC gamers don't get to enjoy) .it will be good for them and also for the consumer.

I hope Sony doesn't ever come near it even if it would bring they more money, not the type of product I like.