Why console crossplay will mean nothing in the long run

[KLAMarine]

Nem said:

KLAMarine said:

"I honestly don't think theres anything anti-consumer about it."

>If the consumer is asking for it and it's not implemented, I consider it anti-consumer. It becomes a bigger deal when Sony's competitors are moving forward with crossplay. Even some third party devs are asking for it since it imposes less restrictions on those who play their game.

"Playstation consumers don't really gain anything from being connected to X1 and SW. It's the ones with the smaller online communities that benefit.

So, without having some sort of advantage for playstation users i don't see why it would even be pro-consumer for Sony to do it. Pro-consumer to rivals customers? Yeah, sure. But why should they care?"

>PS owners do stand to benefit: instead of only having 80 million other potential players to play with, they can have an additional 54 million potential players to play with via crossplay for a total of 134 million potential players.

"Xbox isn't nor ever was more pro-consumer than Sony."

>XBox didn't hijack anyone's Fortnite account last I checked.

"We just need to think back about who started malpractices with DLC and season passes and how supportive Microsoft was of it. Also, they themselves created the online play pay wall and must we recall how it was in the unveil of the X1?"

>I appreciate the history lesson but is this supposed to absolve Sony of any of their own current faulty policies?

I'm not asking for it. Some people are. Majority though? Nah.

Who's counting?

And it's not just players but some third party devs who seek it too.

Nem said:

Second point. Not true. There isn't a 1 to 1 representation in games. PS has a lot more exclusives and third parties than the other two. Some games would benefit slightly, but likely these are huge games to be multi-plat and you will never feel a difference when playing on the PS  because it's already highly populated. It would be a bigger advantage to the competition. One of the strong points of the playstation is that it's highly populated. This would erase that competitive advantage. It would be dumb to do that.

Your logic cuts both ways here: PS is highly populated but PS, like you said, has more exclusives and third parties than the other two so the high PS population will also be diluted more heavily.

This is why just having a high population on one platform doesn't eliminate the positive effect that, as an example, would come from bringing together all Fortnite players regardless of platform.

Nem said:

Also, MS and nintendo aren't doing it for the consumers. They are doing it so Sony drops the competitive advantage.

I don't care why MS, Nintendo, or Sony do what they do. I just care that what they do benefits consumers. Sony's been the most anti-consumer of the three as of late.

Nem said:

Again, this is something that MS did in the past and would do again and much worse if they were in the lead now. Honestly, i'm thankful that this is the worst the market leader is willing to do. I cannot fathom the shit show we'd be in if Microsoft still was.

I operate off of what is, not what might have been.

Passivity won't convince Sony to release people's Fortnite accounts from captivity.

Thisguywhokills said:

microsoft and nintendo online games are dying fast so they need any online player to keep this game's alive

What online games are dying fast? How do you know?

V-r0cK said:

IkePoR said:

Most of the time friends have the same console... so that they can play together.  A Sony guy might have found himself buying an Xbox One purely to play Call of Duty with his friends.  The whole point of cross play is to eliminate that customer inconvenience.

Like we both said, most of the time friends have the same consoles.  So why make this issue something major when it's really nothing more than a very very minor customer inconvenience.

For some, this is a major issue.

V-r0cK said:

But people act as if not having cross play will destroy Sony's reputation (but then again we all know there are many that are looking for any sliver of negativity to bring Sony down just cause).

Topics and threads like these do harm Sony's reputation and Sony has no one but themselves to blame.

V-r0cK said:

I remember when people went crazy when Sony stopped adding backwards compatibility but Sony stuck its foot down and in the end that never stopped Sony from dominating.

Sony was lucky Microsoft and Nintendo blundered so heavily early on this generation. Sony should tread lightly for they are the ones most capable of harming themselves by giving Microsoft and Nintendo ammunition.

And it's not just some players, Microsoft, or Nintendo but also third party developers who want crossplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKJ7CXotsX8

V-r0cK said:

I'm sure this issue will pass by in time because we all know at the end of the day cross play doesn't affect how we game at all.

No, some are affected and they let their grievances be known...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtnG2mpE7Nk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQIFYq-oouE