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d21lewis said:
Slippery slope.

With this ruling and the recent refusal of service to Sarah Sanders, I feel that we're moving backwards. I'm black. My wife is white. What's to stop a restaurant from saying "Sorry. We don't serve interracial couples." What's to stop a store from saying "You blacks are nothing but trouble. I'm not selling you that gun."

This is not good. Not good at all. Even if I disagree with somebody's lifestyle choices, religion, political views, etc. I still feel that their rights should not be compromised.

I don't know. Probably cause the vast majority of people aren't racist. We don't need Big Brother or unions to protect from us the boogie man, we have social media. Don't like the way a business is handling things, get the message out there. People won't want to go to that establishment and it'll eventually close down.

Pemalite said: 
massimus said: 
You are applying it to a human context though. When we apply the term “rape” in human context to the animal kingdom it gets much more fucked up, right? 

Don't conflate two separate issues. That would be a logical fallacy and thus erroneous.

massimus said: 
Why more common in birds? That doesn’t seem weird to you? Gay penguins might win hearts but I don’t think it proves anything personally. They might really believe they are mating lol. It’s not a hallmark movie it’s just a couple of dumb birds.

Doesn't prove anything? Are you serious? It completely proves that my assertions are correct.
And no. It's not weird that it may be more common in some species than others, there are evolutionary, social, environmental, biological pressures at play.

If you are going to delve into goal post shifting logical fallacies, then you have already lost any credibility with this topic, it's as simple as that.



You can't really just respond with "logical fallacy" and think you won the argument. He makes a good point. There is little reason to compare us to the animal kingdom. We have different thought processes and most animals really have no morals, only survival instincts.

A duck doesn't rape a female duck for the same reason a human rapes. In the animal kingdom it is perfectly natural for certain species to eat their mate or their young, where we find it abhorrent if a human did. And an animal doesn't mate for the same reason humans do. There are instances when some species show what could be love, mainly with higher intelligent ones, but just because an animal mates for life doesn't mean that's what is being displayed. As he pointed out, they really might be dumb enough to think they are mating.