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Nautilus said:
o_O.Q said:

"Both men and women watch porn, both women and men act in porn."

which is irrelevant

 

"Also, there's no bypass of consent for sexual access, contracts are negotiated like any other acting gig."

men who consume women's bodies through pornographic imagery do not negotiate with those women for access to their bodies

that's what i'm referring to

ordinarily a man would have to meet a woman and get to know her over a period of time and then progress to sexual activity WITH HER CONSENT

on the other hand when a man watches porn in private he's bypassing the normal preliminary process of getting the know the woman and building trust with her and instead reducing her down to an object with the sole purpose of gratifying him sexually

 

"eeing someone naked is not rape by any definition in the world in any place in the history of humanity"

good thing i didn't say that then

 

"The reason you are having trouble understanding "

understanding what exactly? your defense of pornography?


"The fact of the matter is that the countries where porn is illegal are also the countries with the most misogynist cultures"

there is a rape culture in the west also but this is irrelevant regardless

Just butting in for a second, ands not really focusing on your arguments, which are nonsense, but why the focus on men?Woman watch porn too, you know.Almost as much, if you believe studies.

objectification can also be practiced by women... the fact that all 3 of you don't get that shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the problem

 

this is what privilege does to men ... it blinds them to what women have to put up with in this patriarchal society day after day