| Biggerboat1 said: I feel again, that you are complicating things with extranious points. You can call Sony & EG accomplices but the only party in the agreement demanding the tethered account is Sony. So unless you expect Epic to walk away from potentially hundreds of millions of dollars out of principal then I don't see how you can fairly libel them as a guilty party... And let me just say this to finish - you absolutely have not been saying the same thing since the beginning of this thread, here are just a few quotes: "At best it's Nintendo that should be blamed for not letting people on THEIR platform log on a game for whatever reason." "Even if it's Sony's fault, Sony has NO POWER WHATSOEVER on what happens on a Switch or an Xbox so at best Sony asked Nintendo and Microsoft to block Fortnite accounts created on PS4 and both Nintendo and Microsoft are then accomplices to this." "So to summarize, Sony is guilty of not wanting cross-platform or allowing it on Sony's machines. But whatever does not work on OTHER machines is primarily those machine's fault and problem." "Yeah just as I'm amused to see how you guys get blocked by (in this case) the Switch and somehow accuse Sony of mysteriously having magic powers that allow Sony to block something on Switch. " "Sony is indeed the one not wanting cross-platform, nobody is denying that. But what is blocked on Switch is blocked by Nintendo, what's blocked on Xbox is blocked by Microsoft and what's blocked on Playstation is blocked by Sony end of story." And my personal favourite "Nope but I'm probably the only person in this thread that thinks before throwing wild accusations." And that's just from the first 3 pages of this 39 page thread... So I find your superior tone a bit misplaced tbh, when as far as I can see the majority of users on this thread grasped the fundamentals of this issue much quicker than yourself. I'm not trying to be mean here, it's just that when you're inferring other users haven't been educated properly, you really need to be flawless & consistent in your own arguments - which as we can see above is far from the truth... |
Oh man you are so making my point.
First you quote me on hypotheses I made because I clearly explained I do not know the exact situation so not knowing the details of something means I engage in speculations, check your dictionary, there is a difference between speculations and accusations, others engage in accusations (it's Sony's fault, end of story) I engage in speculations which is the LOGICAL thing to do when you do NOT have all the part of the story. Not knowing who did what but knowing that for example the game's account is blocked on the Switch OBVIOUSLY leads to speculation as Nintendo has at least something to say about what happens on their OWN system don't you think?
From there it is revealed that it's just the EG account of the game that is blocked on Switch so from there I CLEARLY said: it's then most likely both Sony and EG that are part of the issue here, if so then Microsoft and Nintendo have probably nothing to do with this. I find it interesting that you so thoroughly checked my posts in this thread but totally ignored this line about me saying if so then it's not Microsoft nor Nintendo that are at fault here. So ignoring that and only seeing the parts where I speculate to use them against me when it's clearly speculation and not a statement of fact, is kind of purposefully MEAN of you. YOU are definitely complicating something that is not.
And to finish this rejoinder, when I read some comments here (including yours) I can't help but wonder about people's sense of logic, NOT their education in general, JUST their LOGIC. Is there ANYTHING I said that you understood properly? Perhaps English is not a language you wield proficiently enough to understand the finer details and intricacies of the conversation?
Just to be clear I am not judging your education in general, I'm sure you are good in that department but you and everybody MUST understand that in order to have a seamless conversation in a forum you need to both master the language used in it and have a fairly strong sense of logic. Otherwise you are complicating and obfuscating. That applies to everybody, I will NOT engage in, say a political conversation in an Italian forum because my Italian is really bad so I could not understand exactly what is said and that would ONLY lead to redundant replies and counter-replies as we are doing right now.
So back to topic: Sony is guilty of WANTING to limit cross-play, EG is just as guilty of accepting in THIS CASE Nintendo and Microsoft have nothing to do with this. I can't be any more clear. Sony can pressure EG because Sony is market leader and EG can pressure Sony cause Fortnite is such a HUGELY POPULAR game on the PS4 that removing it would mean a HUGE shit storm for Sony. THEREFORE both companies did what anyone with a sense of business would do: they AGREED and when you agree you are part of whatever happens in that agreement and thus you are responsible for the consequences.
Now what part don't you understand here? It's clear as day, it's as logical as it can ever be and it's in clear English.
Last edited by CrazyGamer2017 - on 20 June 2018
