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RolStoppable said:
DélioPT said:

I think you are giving Nintendo's Switch success too much credit.
If it's true that Switch was a big hit without the major 3rd party titles, it's also true that it had, what's being called, the best line-up ever for a console in year 1. Not to mention that it did something big: home console on the go.
Big first year in terms of 1st party titles (Mario, Zelda, MK, Splatoon) + HW selling factor (portability). Don't you think that, in theory, that mix could have been more than enough to cover for 3rd parties' absence?

If you ask me, that won't last forever.
As such, it would be best for Nintendo to gain as much support as it can, because all we know is that 2017 was a success, but that alone doesn't garantee things will keep going that way. Specially if Nintendo relies too much on it's own games (history shows us that it's not enough).

And that is why i said that Switch might suffer down the road if it can't broaden it's offer with 3rd party titles, 

Yes, it is true that Switch had the best lineup ever for a console in year 1. Is that even in doubt?

What history shows us is that it's difficult to support two consoles at the same time without having any glaring gaps of multimillion-selling software. But now Nintendo doesn't have to go back and forth between two consoles anymore. There is only Switch, so that makes it a lot more feasible that Nintendo alone can sustain momentum.

I concede that having third party support is beneficial, but here it is important to focus on third party games that actually matter. You make the big mistake to assume that games that are big on PS and Xbox will be similarly important for Nintendo, but that's simply not the case based on historical sales data and the already available sales data for Switch. The reason why there is such a gap in importance is that third parties specifically tailor their software to gamers who avoid Nintendo, so on the flipside you get the result that people who buy Nintendo consoles aren't showing much interest in those third party games because they weren't made for them. An obvious example of this is that an M-rating is perceived as something valuable by PS and Xbox gamers while Nintendo gamers shrug their shoulders and tell you that a game is going to be good or bad regardless of its rating; in other words, glorification of violence is little to non-existent in the minds of Nintendo gamers. Most of the M-rated games don't offer much beyond violence, that's why they fail to gain traction on Nintendo consoles. The Resident Evil IP is one of the few M-rated series that manages to provide actual substance in its gameplay, that's why it is doing notably better than other M-rated games.

Additionally, video game history shows us that during the times Nintendo pursued the third party support you ask for, Nintendo's sales levels were at their worst. Both the GameCube and Wii U flopped hard and that's no coincidence when you take the above paragraph into account. Nintendo put more emphasis on games that their customers don't care much for, so customers turned their backs on Nintendo. Should Nintendo pursue that path again, they'll inevitably rush out a Switch successor that will predictably fail, because the vast majority of Switch owners will not be interested in moving on.

Agree 100%

You can see with Wii U launch that they planned on 3rd parties to carry it by making a huge deal about games like Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, FIFA, Madden, Batman Arkham, Mass Effect, etc being there day 1 without much 1st party support planned for the launch window or first year.

With Switch you can clearly see that they planned on 1st party software being the main sales driver with a major multimillion seller each quarter (Q1-Zelda, Q2-Mario Kart, Q3-Splatoon, Q4-3D Mario). 3rd parties are still important but they serve to fill in the gaps between major 1st party releases.

So yes, Nintendo is still making a big deal about games like FIFA, Skyrim, Dark Souls, etc coming to Switch but they planned out their 1st party releases so Switch could succeed even without those 3rd party titles.



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