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KLAMarine said:
Goodnightmoon said:

To suggest Rey is an excessively idealized female character and she sucks for that but then to deny Neo, Harry Potter or James Bond are excessively idealized males characters already proves my point, most of this complainst have a base on pure sexism, with her people tries to find every single little detail of why she is a Mary Sue, with them everybody does the exact opposite, try to find every little detail to prove why they aren't Marty Stus even when they clearly are if we apply the same values for all cases.

I cannot comment on Neo since I'm not terribly familiar with Matrix. I saw the film ages ago and have forgotten most of it. I'm also not terribly familiar with James Bond.

Harry Potter, I've read the books and I will say IF Harry Potter had aced everything he went up against at Hogwarts and everyone loved him early on, I'd agree that he was a Gary Stu. He wasn't though. He wasn't the best at his subjects and not everyone liked him. Hermione was smarter and Snape hated him.

This is perfectly illustrated in the following clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6oMfkHviqE

Had he been absolutely knowledgeable at all his subjects from day one much like Rey was skilled in so many areas since day one, I would have agreed but Harry started from zero and worked his way up much like Luke and unlike Rey who just gets force powers out of the blue other characters had to work towards learning.

I'll also share with you someone who is regularly considered a Gary Stu:

Kirito from Sword Art Online. I watched a bit of SAO some time ago and recall him survive situations where countless others get destroyed. The following forum discusses him: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13322219670A23888900&page=21

Yes, Kirito is also one. That sort of character is fairly normal in anime but they are much better written than they are in films or comics. 😎 One of the best examples of a Gary Stu is Superman. Another good example of a Mary Sue is Wonder woman from the new film.