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Hedra42 said:
bdbdbd said:

Most often they propose hypotheses. Theory is the explanation for said phenomenon (or the most probable explanation). Though, the theory might have already been tried and when it's put for other scientists to test, so that they could verify it by ending up with the same results.

I stand corrected on the use of hypotheses, although the testing of theories can also lead to further investigation. The point of my response to the OP was not to confuse the use of hypotheses and theories with his suggestion of employing faith in the absence of conclusive evidence.

I only pointed this out, because in a debates like this, you often see "theory" interpreted as "hypothesis".

o_O.Q said:
bdbdbd said:

Umm. No. Eugenics is an ideology. You need to understand that the "social sciences" are typically equal to religions that more often push politics than anything else.

You don't practice science the way you practice religion. There's no "different interpretations" in science. Surely there are rivaling hypotheses and bad science, but eventually it will find the truth.

eugenics came about because of science, can we agree on that?

and look dude you might think that you can take people and make them completely objective and strip away all of their ideological leanings when it comes to doing experiments, but i don't buy that personally

" There's no "different interpretations" in science. Surely there are rivaling hypotheses and bad science, but eventually it will find the truth."

science inherently is about different interpretations of data made by different scientists... over time we choose one interpretation as fact and dismiss the others sure but that doesn't change the fact that its about different interpretations of data being compared to each other

No, we don't agree on that.

As I said, there exists bad science. And some fields have more bad science than the others - nutrition science is perhaps the worst.

Look, as I said there are rivaling hypotheses. One research may provide data that support or contradict multiple hypotheses. What this means, that one thing may be true under certain conditions and some other under some other conditions. Let us take four imaginary hypotheses: 1. The sky is blue, 2. the sky is red, 3. the sky is black, 4. the sky is green.

You can easily understand that all the hypotheses can't be true. Or can they. So we do some research by observing the sky. Based on the data gathered, we end up in a conclusion that MOST OFTEN the sky is blue, so we say that the sky is blue. Based on the data, we understand that under certain conditions the sky is black (at the nighttime) and red (during sunset), but it was never green (although some colour blind observers could not tell if the sky was red or green). So, technically the same data confirmed total of THREE hypotheses and contradicted one.



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