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o_O.Q said:
palou said:

Those weapons have been created, but have barely been used. The atomic bomb, ironically, could in large part be responsible for why we did NOT have a direct war between any major powers in the last 70 years, even if the two largest powers hated each other with passion.

 

Wars were no less cruel, brutal before just because people used sticks and stones to murder each other.

 

When it comes down to it - who has reduced worldwide child mortality from 50 to 2 percent? Who’s made parasitical disease a thing of the past, turned the flue from a deadly disease to an annoying couple weeks in bed? Who has made food production so efficient that the *quantity* of food produced will never again be a problem? The church or the scientific community?

they are not the only weapons created by the scientific community for the lone purpose of killing though, millions die every year as a result of smaller scale weapons

 

"When it comes down to it - who has reduced worldwide child mortality from 50 to 2 percent? Who’s made parasitical disease a thing of the past, turned the flue from a deadly disease to an annoying couple weeks in bed? Who has made food production so efficient that the *quantity* of food produced will never again be a problem? The church or the scientific community?"

 

the scientific community... but if we wind up killing a whole bunch of other people through other means... can we concede that there are negative and positive aspects to it?

 

"Wars were no less cruel, brutal before just because people used sticks and stones to murder each other."

 

true but the consequences were less far reaching obviously... you can't compare a bomb leveling a whole area to someone throwing a stone

Not obviously, not obviously at all. Proportionally to population, wars killed far, far more in the past than they do nowadays - even when including the 2 great wars. The mongol conquests killed a quarter of the world population, for example. The world wars killed 2 percent.



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