If Sea of Thieves Succeeds?

[DonFerrari]

Azzanation said:

DonFerrari said:

 

The proof of Halo 5 sales will be those 70% digital attach ratio or the some Billion revenue that used the revenue of the console as well? Sure sure, go there. Let's pretend Halo 5 is even bigger than Halo 3. Still doesn't change the fact that 343i is stuck to Halo and that Bungie left because they were done with Halo.

Oh mate Don you never disappoint. 

You haven't proven anything apart from you saying Halo is a milked franchise. Much like majority of the major gaming franchises. You know, Final Fantasy, Monster Hunter, Pokémon, Resident Evil, Mario, Zelda, Gran Turismo etc. I can keep going but ill save my time. 

No one is saying Halo 5 is bigger than Halo 3, It also doesn't have to be. Halo is still making a fortune and that's why MS continue to make them. You would be stupid not to because Halo has one of the biggest followings in the industry.

Look how much money Halo 5 made in its first week.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-5-reaches-400-million-in-sales-to-become-bigg/1100-6431980/

^ Cant argue with facts. 

Your analogies are the most exquisite... so both titles having being release a same number of times by one developer is meant to mean anything?

You confuse me, what are you referring to? Star Wars and Halo releases? If so than Disney is definitely milking Star Wars much the same as MS with Halo. Is that a bad thing? No because I love Star Wars and Halo and would love to see more of them.

Your points to deflect are fantastic. So a game made by a small team inside the dev proves they have the freedom to dev what they want?

I proved you wrong with Mojang because Mojang release other games so your point is invalid. No need to keep going there.  

If you were to ask before GTS, you would be asking "what game PD released recently" because it didn't release any game in the last 4 years? Their contract haven't change as far as we know, so they having released and worked on different games than GT in the past and having no evidence of they wanting to do other thing and not being allowed doesn't prove at all that they aren't allowed to. Again let's go by comparison to ALL Sony devs, not a single one of then is mandated to release a specific game or be stuck on a franchise, not even the ones that answer directly to SEI, so why would the only case be the one that isn't even under SEI? Would that be because you want it to be?

That's because none of Sony's brands have been built from the ground up to do so. Ill use Turn 10 as an example. That company would not exist if the Forza series didn't exist. Its a dedicated brand made to make Forza games. Just like 343i with Halo. That's not forcing devs, that's the point of the existence of that company. Forcing is making a company make a game they don't want to. Bungie was a unique case and they didn't want to make Halo anymore, did MS force them? No that's why we have Destiny and 343i.

I'm not thanking or bashing MS for locking then to it. You have been rolling this crazy notion during all this conversation. I'm stating what is observable about MS practices.

What brands under MS that aren't built from the ground up are forced to make one IP? I am still waiting for that answer.

You need to stop comparing apples to oranges and two completely different business models.

Please prove any Zelda being almost yearly or Mario 3D or 2D... the fact that a game have a Mario, Zelda or Pikachu character doesn't make that a milked franchised, at most a milked char.

Lol i am not sure if you are you serious with this one? So games like Mario and Rabbits and Hyrule Warriors aren't classified as milking yet Halo Wars is? That right there is your flaw in your logic. So Mario tennis is not a Mario game? We aren't talking about Kameo's, we are talking actual games. Hyrule Warriors isn't Dynasty Warriors with Link Kameos, they are actual spin off games just like Halo Wars and Forza Horizon.

What's even funnier is that you are in a thread that's all about a company under MS creating a game with full freedom. 

I so much doesn't disappoint that even knew the evidence you were going to post, is that something right?

I'm not talking about MS having to kill off Halo, I said Bungie wanted to finish the story. MS didn't want, Bungie left and they put another studio to do it. And they on X1X are essentialy making yearly titles and milking it. May the dry it or will it keep steady? Who knows, but the balance is very delicate. Although while they keep making quality game the sales will probably keep coming.

Disney is certainly milking it, and they bought it for this purpose. I love Star Wars, and by that, I'm restricting to the original trilogy not the shenanigans. How many the Last Jedi will they decide to make?

Errrr you know it doesn't really have any difference on the forcing between making a studio for it or making other do it right? Because if the studio made to do it want to do any other thing and can't they would be forced to do it. And I already gave you the example of coalition being made to do Gears and Lions being closed after being forced to just do Fable and you asked for examples but after receiving you excused then.

None of Sony studios were build to do one franchise because that isn't how Sony operates, it is how MS operates. I even gave you the example of Sony buying MM for they to do LBP, still the company was then doing Dreams and another company done LBP3. That is similar to ND being bought for Crash but still have changed to major IPs 3 times.

I already gave you 2 examples, Bungie was bought and kept for Halo, release when they refused to keep making it, Coalition wasn't made for Gears but then were forced to it, Lions the same. Besides all the other studios MS funded and closed without releasing a single game.

Shall I repeat that using the Mario character isn't the same as releasing a remaster, a collection, a sequel, etc one after the other? I haven't classified Halo Wars as milking the mainline Halo (although it's milking the franchise, because it isn't Master Chief Wars, it's Halo Wars). If you can't see any difference ok. Kkkkkkk you are joking right? There are plethora Dinasty Warriors skins, Hyrule Wars certainly isn't a Zelda spin-off unless you are willing to reach outside the galaxy.

This is a thread asking what if the game succeed. And the point I'm making and you want to consider as impossible is that MS is more likely to keep the dev doing that game if it is a major success than allow then to leave the franchise die... and you already said, if they let a successful franchise be finsihed they are dumb. You can't have it both ways.