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Azzanation said:

Guns don't control the crimes. The people do and unfortunately in the USA its the culture not the guns that's the issue. Banning them only takes away freedom doesn't solve the problem.

And what freedom would that be?
I think you are under the false misconception that it is illegal to own guns in Australia when that couldn't be farther from the truth.

Azzanation said:

Those mass shootings will still happen regardless if guns are banned or not (eg. black Market).

The evidence of no massacres in Australia for the past few decades says otherwise.
You understand what evidence is, right?

Azzanation said:

Blaming items for crimes is a poor mans excuse.

Let me guess... You will use the old adage of "Guns don't kill people, people kill people".
So North Korea should have nuclear weapons as Nuclear Weapons don't kill people, people kill people?

Azzanation said:

Australia banned knifes in the city yet we still have stabbings.

There is a fundamental difference between the concealed knife ban and gun control.
Australians were happy to give up their guns and hand them over to police, it cost the Government hundreds of millions.

Knives on the other hand only need a trip to Kmart or any kitchen in Australia. - Try acquiring a gun that easily.
Thus the Knife ban was never going to work.

Azzanation said:

What next, we ban cars because some crazy people do hit and runs?

This is a logical fallacy and thus false.

Azzanation said:

No thanks. Id rather take freedom of choice than be monitored like babies and being defenceless at the same time. This comes down to your opinion vs mine and mine wont change on the matter.

It's not just my opinion, you are clinging to logical fallacies, which means your opinion is fundamentally wrong. - And that's not my opinion either, that is a fact.

Azzanation said:

I don't import or emulate so majority miss out on these games that get banned because Australia thinks that's the reason for bad behaviour.

That's fine. You can still import or VPN.

Azzanation said:

Back to the main topic. Does it matter if there gay, straight, incest or pedo? Why allow one and not the others if others say they do it because there in love? We can judge and exclude them for a period of time however how long can we continue holding the lines. Maybe our generation is safe but maybe not the next.

Regurgitating your argumentum ad ignorantiam isn't going to make your argument sound, it does the opposite.

Incest is already legal to a point anyway.

But the appropriate answer to your response is... It depends on society and how they perceive it.
If Society deems that Polygamy is morally acceptable, then so be it.
If Society deems same-sex marriage is morally acceptable, then so be it.
If society deems that marrying a physical object or location is morally acceptable, then so be it.

But the abuse of Children... Will never ever ever be morally acceptable as it destroys innocent lives.
Your slippery slope conspiracy theories are not the truth and you should stop.

Azzanation said:

This is a growing community that will continue to push for more. Love is love as they say.

Its already happening with paedophilia want to be part of the LGBT community. Its extremely wrong however if paedophilia is pushing for sexual orientation, what's not stopping incest from there own sexual identity? (Vid Below)

This is a logical fallacy. And thus untrue.

Using Infowars which is an outlet that propagates fake news and conspiracy theories and will use any argument they can to reinforce their confirmation bias to push their own agenda?
Only idiots would trust in it and try to use it as a source, infowars doesn't even use appropriate citations or sources in it's claims... - And thus in one fell swoop, you just lost any and all credibility.

Azzanation said:

Its a trending social movement on Twitter and YouTube that provides information how gays were once considered a mental illness and was redefined as a sexual orientation.

And then science happened. I suggest you go have a listen to Richard Dawkins on how biology and genetics plays a role in Homosexuality... And most importantly the twin studies.
..Which is why Homosexuality was delisted as a mental illness.

A few decades later when the idea that Homosexuality isn't a choice... Same-sex marriage was legalized. Yay.

Azzanation said:


Some of the LGBT community has advocated the social movement of paedophilia as a sexual orientation. 

And some in the Christian community advocate the death penalty for homosexuality, doesn't mean they are representative of all Christians across Australia, especially the millions that voted yes.

Only a fool paints everyone with the same brush.

Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Here is the Bible's argument against homosexuality. Various quotes in the Bible condemns homosexuality. http://www.livingout.org/the-bible-and-ssa

Don't get me started on theistic perspectives on homosexuality and same-sex marriage.
Freedom from Religion should be something that all nations aspire towards in my opinion.



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