| S.T.A.G.E. said: Yes, I said Xbox gamers are attracted more to dude bro multiplayer games than single player story driven titles. |
And I said so are Playstation gamers. Sales charts proves me right. I mean, what you're describing is a large chunk of both fanbases. That's like saying Californians are more attracted to blockbuster super hero titles than westerns. I mean, duh, but who cares? The same thing applies to every other state. You're using it negatively to paint an entire fanbase. First, it's not a negative. If you want your risky single player titles, you need the more casual games to sell. Sony said recently only 4 out of 10 of their titles make money. I would imagine that's the case for Microsoft as well. It's no different than movies. And there's plenty of good SP content that exists on Xbox thanks to the sales of these more casual/monetized games.
Second, your argument falls flat because like I said, the same thing applies to the Playstation fanbase. Sure, you have pockets of people who love games like Gravity Rush or Infamous but the majority of the people buying games are buying the massively casual titles like CoD, Madden, Battlefield, Battlefront, FIFA, etc. lol, you do understand this is reality, yes?
| S.T.A.G.E. said: Even at the very core, single player AAA experiences are not being supported. Xbox wouldn't have half the problems it is today if gamers were not supporting games like Ryse, Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive. |
So gamers need to support flawed titles just because? Why should gamers have supported Ryse? Again, I love the title, but I can see why a majority hated it. Why should people support games just because they are single player titles? If they're not good, they don't deserve support. If they appeal to a limited amount of people, they don't deserve support. Quantum Break needed tighter controls, among other things. Sunset turned people away with its humor and gameplay. Not every SP game is going to sell as much as Uncharted or Zelda, lol.
| S.T.A.G.E. said: Microsoft is saying the same things as EA because they are revealing the same data EA seems to be gathering from their console as a whole. |
Idk, if EA is saying something about the state of gaming then I'd pay more attention to that than anything you're saying. No offense intended, but I'm sure they have data that is more reliable than what you come up with. Idk about EA though, I'm only commented on the person you mentioned, Phil Spencer.
| S.T.A.G.E. said: I am not shifting any goal posts. I was expressing the disappointment that that the install base does not support single player AAA experiences as well as they should. Also, if Sony has a high selling platform, don't you think the dude bros are going to have to the popular platform? I was just saying that the Xbox is the type of brand that likes to make games people who love EA annualized titles would like to get. |
EA titles like Battlefront, FIFA, Madden, Battlefield, among many other titles that sell much better on PS4? lol.
Again, why would you be disappointed that a lackluster or flawed SP game does not get supported well? Personally I don't have a problem with meh games netting meh sales. I have more of a problem when a mega hyped turd like The Order outsells more deserving SP titles :)
And what a dumb ass excuse for the sales of these "dudebro" games on PS4. "oh well its a high selling platform". What do you think got these types of gamers onto the 360 platform last gen? Sales. Being the popular platform. Now that is the PS4. Your excuses are only making my case for me.
| S.T.A.G.E. said: Gears and Halo are right up the dude bros alley. Last of Us has awesome manhunt style multiplayer, but do you think a dude bro is going to choose that over COD? LOL no. The dude bros are on it primarily for COD, Battlefield, Fifa, Madden, etc. I am happy that Spencer realizes that if he wants single player games to sell hes going to try to make a huge blockbuster next gen that will draw single player gamers over to the Xbox. Perhaps a huge, elaborate and critically acclaimed WRPG and another multiplayer Shooter. Those games will sell well on the Xbox. One thing that I will give core Xbox gamers is that they will buy a good WRPG. Microsofts WRPG DNA is lined with WRPG's from PC. That's probably why they a game similar to Horizon. |
lol, why do you keep bringing up Last of Us? I didn't say anything about LoU MP being "dudebro". I said Uncharted, because it is. LoU actually appeals to people who used to love SOCOM. They're surprisingly similar. Also, if you don't consider games like Uncharted to be dudebro because they have well written SP sides, then you can remove Halo and Gears from your list of dudebro games.
A huge critically acclaimed WRPG would sell great on either console. See: Witcher 3. A complete dudebreh shootfest would sell great on either platform. See: Calls of Duty 2017. A yearly iteration of a sports franchise will sell great on either platform. See: FIFA. Niche, less appealing SP titles sell less on both platforms.
Also, what do you mean by a game "similar to Horizon"? Have you played Horizon? There already exists lots of games like Horizon, they're called Ubisoft open world titles.
| S.T.A.G.E. said: Spencer has said himself hes wanted games like Uncharted, and after failures he saw fit to get the timed exclusivity of Tomb Raider to have a game to face off against Uncharted 4. |
Jeez, how many threads are you going to insert that Spencer comment into? I literally think I've seen you use it 50 times already. Spencer said he wants a successful franchise like Uncharted, not literally an Uncharted clone type game. I mean, what exactly is surprising or wrong about that? Game execs want franchises that sell. Who cares.
| S.T.A.G.E. said: I've actually linked you to the Spencer discussion in the past where he spoke of Sony and Nintendos fanbase ability |
So you got nothing, ok. If you ever find it, link it. I'd love to read :)
