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Azuren said:
Biggerboat1 said:

I think this whole debate comes down to expectations. As I stated earlier I don't mind replacing my TV every 5 years if it means having the best viewing experience. At that point I can retire the old OLED to the secondary set in the bedroom or something - I'm sure even with a little burn-in and loss of blues it'll still do a decent enough job in that capacity.

If you want your TV to last up to 10 years as your primary then yes, I guess there are better options. Although, I have to say that it seems a bit of an exception in the world of tech to expect that length of optimal performance out of a product... Just look at phones & PCs...

Sony may be skeptical of OLED in some regards but not too skeptical to have offered a Vita using the tech and also currently available TVs...

My issue is the lack of moderation in these comments - it seems very one-sided & it took the mention of the Vita to have you say something overtly positive about the tech...

I'll have another look at some test screens tonight and really have a thorough examination as I'm genuinely interested. If it turns out there's some burn-in hiding somewhere I won't be happy but I'm not going to lose sleep over it, especially as even with some subtle burn-in which is only visible on test screens, I'm still be delighted with the overall day-to-day viewing experience...

And as I tell people in my store, if you're the rope to buy a new TV every few years, don't worry about it and grab an OLED. But most people aren't like that, and it's irresponsible to suggest OLEDs to people looking for a 7-8 year TV. A 10 year TV doesn't really happen anymore.

 

Sony is skeptical, which is why they stopped releasing OLED Vita's. They worked with OLED for years before LG made larger OLED screens, and this have much more experience with it than LG does. So I'll trust Sony's opinion on OLED before LG's.

 

It seems you misunderstand: I've never completely dogged OLED picture quality. Aside from a loss in black definition on LG models (Sony models can more properly display black detail thanks to better video processing), the OLEDs have perfect picture quality. The problem is it's a dead end technology, just like plasma. The shortcomings of OLED will never be overcome, and the industry will change gears to the QLEDs after Samsung makes them self-emitting. ((Quick lesson: the thing that makes OLED so great is the fact that the diodes are self-emitting, meaning every pixel is lighting itself. So instead of displaying a black that is lit up like an LED, the diode just turns off, giving a perfect black with infinite contrast and zero light bleed/bloom. Should a QLED become self-emitting, it's be an OLED with 100% color volume, zero burn-in, and no half-life.))

Well, I just spent 5 minutes switching  through the various app icons on the webos menu - (hovering over an app displays a flat colour associated with that app across the entire screen apart from an icon in the middle and the icon tray at the bottom - should do the trick no?) and I can honestly say that I cannot see any uniformity issues.

 

Maybe I'm just lucky but my understanding is that it's not a hit or miss thing but an issue inert to every oled TV so I dunno...

 

Until I do see signs of burn in, my stance is that I own a TV that is significantly better than any of those you listed on a previous post & even if it were to show signs in say, a year or two, at which point does it get bad enough to completely offset the advantage it has in image quality? 

 

If I had the choice between a non-oled or an oled with a bit of burn-in in the top left of the screen where the BBC logo lives, I'd still choose the oled...

 

Again, this is just me, I'm sure that view would split opinion but I think the presumption that burn-in of any kind nullifies any and all of the other advantages the oled holds over it's counterparts is not fair. 

 

And I have zero loyalty to oled itself - if like you say, next gen qled trumps it then qled will be my next TV.

 

I appreciate the more constructive tone to your recent posts as opposed to the ones where you were telling me, as an oled owner, that I feel bitter - as that's what got my hackles up!