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HappySqurriel said:

leo-j said:

More other games the wii will have than the ps3 will ever have? there is no proof to know that the wii would have more games than the ps3 will have in the future, According to sony the ps3 will have some 150+ games by march 08, three are not much if any hardcore wii games. The ps3 has some hardcore games coming in the near future with uncharted being one of those other games you talk about. The fact of the matter is that the ps3 will have more hardcore games than the wii might have in the long term.


It is simply a matter of ecconomics  [ Larger Userbase + Less Expensive Development = More games ] ...

The PS3 may have more "Hard-Core" games but most gamers are not interested in "Hard-Core" games. (By definition, a game being "Hard-Core" would imply that it didn't appeal to the masses)

Question 1: How many PS2 owners also own a GBA/DS and a Mario game?

A lot ...

The GBA and Nintendo DS were/are very popular systems and a large portion of PS2 owners would have owned both systems. It is likely that, since Mario Games are amazingly popular, a reasonably large portion of gamers bought both a PS2 and a Mario game for their portable system.

Question 2: How quickly would Sony fanboys have raised the roof if Nintendo had gone software-only and declared Mario a Sony exclusive franchise?

In an instant ...

Question 3: There are 120+ million PS2 owners out there. The best selling franchise (GTA) sold upwards of 13 million copies, barely 10%. The other top franchises were Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts (could be lumped in with FF), MGS, Madden and Jax and Dexter. The rest of the million-selling games ranges from RE4 to Crash Bandicoot. So... what exactly is a typical PS gamer?

I didn't imply there was a typical Playstation gamer ... I just said that people bought a Playstation for 'other games' (implying some unspecified game) and they didn't choose the Playstation to avoid Mario ...


Understood. I wasn't under the impression that you said there was a typical PS2 gamer (that was lulubelle) -  I was attempting to reinforce your point.

Whatever finally comes down the pipe, there is so much diversity in the PS2 audience (which is to be expected given its size) that pretty much any game could tap into that market. So while there will be some who abhor Mario-type games, there will also be those that flock to it. If anything, the PS2's success just goes to show that the console that can appeal to the broadest variety of gamers has the best chance to succeed over all. Note lulubelle's earlier list of Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto, Grand Tourismo, and Metal Gear Solid actually has little comonality besides the platform, which, I think, makes lulu's comment that Mario (or pretty much any game - even shitty ones) are not a game that PS2 owners would play completely fallacious.