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monocle_layton said:
o_O.Q said:

 

"Equity, not equality."

 

i quoted your words directly and you typed equality with regards to rights twice and could not state any rights that men have that women lack

 

" A women who's pregnant shouldn't be expected to work 70 hours just because I could. At the same time, a man taking care of 2 kids shouldn't be expected to work 65 hours because a single woman can."

 

what a weird red herring but is your argument here? that companies should be forced to absorb the costs of the personal decisions their employees make?


"You constantly keep going in a circle and saying 'well what inequalities'. That was never my fucking argument."

 

so why did you state that its about equality with regards to rights twice?

 

"You clearly stated you personally don't treat women like garbage and think they're clearly treated well. How does that negate feminism?"

 

i actually did not, what i said is that its a weird argument to bring up because i don't think anyone being rational would try to state that a significant number of people think its ok to treat women like garbage

 

i didn't say that this negates feminism

 

"If things seem fine, then there's nothing wrong with standing still for a short or permanent amount of time. How complicated is that? "

 

what is your point here? are you trying to in some roundabout way admit that men and women have equal rights now?

 

"I'm thinking rationally, and instead of constantly going on about how I'm 'irrational'"

 

well all i can do is request that you look back at my questions and your replies to them and assess your responces for yourself

The issue is that I have no idea how this conversations reached to this when I never entered the feminism conversation. At this point, I honestly don't care about being right. 

 

I don't think you're idiotic or anything (not sure if you can say the same), but I'm truly lost as to what happened from my first comment to your response. What is it even over? 

 

because you were challenging me stating that feminism is an irrational ideology... i suppose i was just trying to see your perspective since you think the opposite, i suppose all i can say now is to ask you to sincerely look at what feminists are campaigning for now and ty to determine for yourself if their current stated goals are in anyway sensible or even desirable for men and women

 

i don't think they are and i have difficulty believing others do tbh... and in many cases like with the owner of neogaf... they do not, they simply use the ideology as a cloak to mask their true intentions which are sociopathic

 

uh... to those who keep saying that feminism is irrelevant here - the very reason neogaf is falling apart is that its owner claimed to uphold feminist values and then was outed as a misogynist