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vivster said:
StarOcean said:

Hmm.. so you believe something like a larger recession would benefit the country then?

Theoretically maybe. I don't know how entrenched exactly the ideologies are. It might not do shit or make it worse. Not that I wish it upon them but I am convinced that only a big event like that would change things noticeably.

I mean look at the shit that happened in Flint. Did that change anything about government regulation? Thousands of people suffering is apparently not enough for change. At this point I'm not even convinced that a large scale nuclear disaster at a power plant would change much.

Well, as far as I have heard, some anthropologists (I think that's the study group) think thay we're at the brink of a collapse of western civilization anyway. They don't think it'll be like the Dark Ages, but it will definitely mark the end of the US's global dominance. Of course, they say that could happen as soon as 2050 or as late as 2150. But they're noticing the signs that typically show when a society is about to fall. But anyway, when it does inevitably occur -the US is one of the last places you wanna be. 

Nothing will change if it ends up just being a passing of the crown like it was with England to the US.