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KLAMarine said:
Aeolus451 said:

Unless the Microsoft games are also coming to Steam over time which is a good thing. The more available these games are, the better.

Which they aren't. The games were talking about are the brand exclusives (exclusive to X1 and win 10). 

Killer Instinct is coming to Steam soon: https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/19/killer-instinct-coming-to-steam/

This is after Quantum Break came to Steam some time before: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/quantum-break-coming-to-steam/1100-6442517/

It's not much but it's a start. I can't see this as anything but a good thing for the consumer and Microsoft deserves props for moves like these.

Aeolus451 said:

But the XBox 1 still has value since it can still play games, exclusive or not.

So you're agreeing that it did lose value, then. By the way, I didn't say all value was lost earlier. 

It depends. Prior to Killer Instinct getting ported to PC, the game was ONLY playable on XBox 1. Now with a PC port, people have more choice with regards to what platform to get the game on. If someone prefers their fighters on console over PC and love physical media then the console version is the way to go. If they want it on PC because they don't want to pay the yearly subscription or whatever then PC is the way to go.

The consumer has more choice now than when KI was X1 exclusive.

Aeolus451 said:

So you prefer a game only being available on a single platform versus that game being made available on more than one therefore giving people more choice?

Yes. Especially yes in the situation of xbox one and windows 10. People aren't gonna buy games on windows store because MS isn't allowing mods so it doesn't add any meaningful choice for gamers. It's just MS trying to incentivise people into using windows store by pilfering would be exclusive games from xbox. Also, MS is dialing back it's production of exclusives in general.

However you try to spin the situation, MS' actions are not offering more choice but rather just less. Less people will buy the xbox one because it's not gonna have any games exclusive to it and less exclusives of all types because ms is dialing back on them for xbox one/win 10. So it's really the console of less options. 

I'm seeing more choice. Prior to Killer Instinct coming to PC, it was ONLY available on X1. Now with it coming to Steam soon, its availability is greater than ever and someone looking to play it can now choose from more hardware on which to play it on.

They can play it on X1 because they like playing games on their wide screen while sitting on their big couch or on their PC because they like using their DS4 or Switch Pro Controller for gaming.

 

Props to ya Microsoft. This is some pro-consumer stuff. Well done.

Aeolus451 said:

That's why I said "Here's to Microsoft becoming more competitive against Steam in the near future". If that means Microsoft reversing any restrictions they might have on mods then so be it.

That would be great wouldn't it?

It would help and it would be nice for xbox gamers but I doubt that MS would change their mind.

Again, that is why I said "here's to Microsoft becoming more competitive against Steam".

 

More choice in the sea of mediocre games. Sssplendid.

The irrefutable pro of exclusives, is the motivation to exceed and enhance the common standard with variety, quality and innovation, to promote and sell a platform to a targeted audience. Sony does it, Nintendo does it. Microsoft doesn't do it.

With outsourcing "exclusives" to other platforms the incentive for costumers to buy a console and the support of the platform holder, is cancelled out. A severe lack of prominent and original games/IPs is and always was an indicator, that Microsoft doesn't have an understanding of the nature of console hardware. As the majority of the games community. With even big IPs (Halo and Gears of War) being less well received as their predecessors, lacking in quality, it is clear that they don't have the intention to make a competitive stand and try to contribute with meaningful highlights, pushing the medium video games forward as a whole. 

More competitive against Steam? I suppose this a good thing in your humble opinion. And how is this suppose to work out when the majority of "exlusives" come to Steam anyway?

Pro consumer? An empty plattitude, not considering consequences. Pretending as if publishing games on multiple platforms is a blessing and universal guarantee. The high percentage of failing multiplatform games prove otherwise.

But, actually i don't mind Microsofts recent course that much. Since there is the possibillity of falling flat on their noses and/or staying out of the way of those who understand this business.



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