Scorpio will be the cheapest way to play PS5/Xbox 2 games.

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Azzanation said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Actually, it doesn't work the way you are suggesting due to the way that console optimization works. Developers always develop/optimize for baseline hardware and they don't bother with scaling very much on consoles. What you are suggesting is that the developers will use Scorpio as their baseline hardware and they will scale up with Ps5/x2 which would be nonsense. And if you are suggesting that they would scaledown to Scorpio and use ps5/x2 as base level hardware, that would also be nonsense due to the performance uplift of base level hardware. The reason is the entire point of a new generation is to have base level hardware which the developers can optimize on. So if the developers will use the ps5/x2 as baseline hardware, they will take advantage of the performance uplift which the Jag won't be able to keep up with.

Yes, we have games which do fine with older hardware like an i7 but that is also due to most games not taking advantage of the wealth of performance pc hardware delivers because it is being held back by console hardware. But when the next gen get that uplift, developers will use that ryzen based cpu to it's full potential and running games on old hardware at playable framerates won't be as possible. At least for high demanding games anyway.

I understand what your saying however my point is that devs arent just going to use next gen as baseline. Those next gen games will also need to run on low to mid level PCs aswell and i can safely say, the new AMD tech wont be standard for PC gamers. If the games run off DX12 and Vulkan than Scorpio should be able to run it. 

Look at the Scorpio as a mid range PC. 12gigs of Ram is way above the standard GPUs for the PC world. On average PC gamers use 2 to 4gigs of video memory. i5 are also the standard CPU you will find in majority on PCs. (Those standards will slightly raise in the next couple years)

Devs arent going to jump ship and lose support for all those gamers. They will want to make it available on as many platforms as possible. If a game comes out using PS5/XB2 hardware as base, than a PC port will most likely be in the making which will have settings for low and mid range PCs. That means the Scorpio should run the same games as those PC ports. Remember DX12/Vulkan isnt going anywhere and thats where most devs will design there next gen games around.  

But here's the thing with PCs... The CPUs that the next gen consoles will get will still be far behind even mid level PC hardware. What the next gen consoles will get is a Ryzen Based APU which will be much more powerful than the current jag cpus but not even close to mid pc cpu performance. So the developers won't worry about PC hardware...

As for Scorpio's hardware, all this vram is going into resolution. So while 12gb of ram sounds huge... The problem is where is all this performance going into? And the answer is... 4k... So sure, it has 12Gb of vram but that legit means nothing because majority is just going into resolution which is easily scalable... CPUs on the otherhand are not. Also not to mention that even a 1060 can play games at 4k with xbox one's graphical settings so it's not like its that easy to compare... And yea, the i5 is the standard but it's not like APUs will perform like an i5... And not to mention that by the time these next gen consoles come around, the standard cpu's performance will continue to increase when it comes to PC... 

You do realize that this isn't the first time we have had a new console generation with a big performance boost in cpu/gpu department right? Infact we had many. The reality is that for the most part, it just doesn't matter. PC hardware moves so fast that by the time the new generation of consoles come out, the hardware is already out dated... But thanks to optimization, Consoles manage to punch above their weight where as u would need a more expensive pc to achieve similar results. Idk what dx12/vulkan has to do with anything though...