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bonzobanana said:
Machiavellian said:

Its a mid gen console, why makes you think this is the last iteration for MS.  If anything when Sony is ready for their next gen so will MS.  The PS4 Pro and Scorpio will be the low end while the new consoles will be the high.  Having the scorpio as your low end seems pretty good for MS

It doesn't seem like a mid-gen refresh it seems like a whole new platform. I understand Microsoft have stated it will not have exclusive games but the hardware seems expensive and over-complicated. I can forsee it costing something like £399 in the UK while the ps4 pro is at £279 or even £249. The pro looks very cheap to make in comparison to the Scorpio.

So my Xbox one will run all the same games at 720p or 900p where as the Scorpio will run them at 4k or supersample 4k to 1080p? 

I'm not sure I'm going to be interested in upgrading to be honest if the ps5 will hits stores 18 months later and a new Xbox perhaps a year after that. 

To be honest, its pretty much on how you feel more than how the product is positioned.  Every indication from MS shows that the scorpio is positioned as a Mid Gen product.  Yes they could have came out at the same time as the PS4 Pro but chose that extra year to go bigger.  Its a calculated risk by MS and who knows if it will work or not.  Definitely it will not change the outcome of this generation but it could pick up a lot more steam as the low end console for the next.  

As for the hardware its not over - complicated at all.  MS just added more cores and increase the memory.  They probably are using more advance cores for the GPU but nothing that changes it significantly enough from the current X1.  The CPU is the same but with an uptick in speed.  The PS4 Pro was and is very cheap for Sony to make and it shows because of all the limitations it has in achieving its results.  The Scorpio looks like MS looked at all the areas that were holding back the PS4 Pro and made sure they would not have those issues and thus it should achieve exactly what MS has stated it will.  Whether that garners gamers support will not be determined until E3 and when it goes on sale.