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o_O.Q said:
vivster said:

That's not intervention, that's dictatorship. See, the key is moderation. For example the amount of government intervention in the US is absolutely laughable and barely does anything to protect its citizens.

That's why the wealth gap is so gigantic and citizens are forced to drink poison water and get fucked over by their employers.

 

it is not in human nature to practice moderation... which is where all of these socialist ideas fail

as long as the systems are imposed by people, greed will ultimately take over

And that's exactly why you shouldn't haver an agreessive capitalist system in any country either, the only thing you get is few powerful people taking profit of the others just because they have more money, they are greed and nobody put them any kind of limit, at the end is just freedom for a few while the others live like slaves, a good system needs some socialist ideas integrated on them, the more people deny this the slower our civilization is advancing, we need to stop seeing the boogie man in every single idea that resembles something about socialism.