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setsunatenshi on 24 December 2016
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MikeRox said:
setsunatenshi said:

How does  ending Schengen prevent a fucktard that entered Europe as a fake refugee from driving a truck into a crowd of people? If you want to argue borders, argue European borders with the North Africa, but when you have people literally swimming across the sea to end up in some random beach in Europe, what the hell are we to do?

In this case even though they tried to deport him, Tunisia did not want to receive him. There is no good, clean solution to this fucking mess, but creating even higher inconvenience for regular European citizens by ending Schengen is not the answer.

I honestly don't see any clean solution to all this, there might not be one at all.

It wouldn't have stopped him getting into the external border, however Merkel welcomed ALL migrants who could get to Germany, noting Germany doesn't have ANY borders with non EU countries. However she basically opened the flood gates through that promise to all the countries like Greece and Italy.

That said, Schengen did enable him to get into Italy with no documentation, once he had done his attack in Germany. Hell, the thing I find the most scary, is that he was only caught due to a routine check on the Italian's part. Had he gone to other parts of Europe, he would probably have been able to disappear. :/

I'm not sure you can see it, but your own post is pretty much why such a stance is such a bad idea!

I think you just proved my own point for me. Germany's stance on taking all those refugees as well as 'refugees' has absolutely nothing to do with Schengen.

I love my freedom to visit any country I want to in Europe without having to be bothered with bullshit borders. I for one don't want to sacrifice my freedom to do so because there's some countries deciding to open themselves to all north african and middle eastern refugees when their real interest is an influx of cheap labor (like Germany does).

Now the point still stands, if this guy came from Tunisia, his family was in Tunisia and they didn't even want to get him back, what can we actually do? I don't think it's fair for Italy to have to support all the cost of this illegal imigration just because they are the ones closer to that region.

So either Europe has an actual plan to deal with this crysis or we don't. Even though we sure as fuck didn't start it.