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Flilix said:
Locknuts said:
Man made climate change may turn out to be significant and it may not, but I think we need to be aware that there are those who will use climate change to push their own agenda.

It's important that we don't panic and that every time a solution is proposed we ask the question: what's in it for the person proposing it? What's their agenda?

For politicians it's a lot easier to deny climate change. If an important person says 'nobody really knows if climate change is real', then people will believe him. This way, they do not have to feel guilty for keeping polluting.

You could compare it to a politician who wants to abolish all taxes. It sounds good, but it isn't. In the first few years, people will get richer, but after that the country will have a lot of debts and there will be an economical crisis.

Also, the oil lobby is way bigger than the 'green energy lobby' (if that even exists). Fossil fuel is cheaper than  renewable energy.

By the way, 99% of the scientists say climate change is real. Why would they lie? Some people seem to think that being a scientist means that you're a part of some sort of cult or political organisation.

Actually climate change is the perfect catalyst for higher taxes, which governments love because it makes their lives easier and allows government to expand. Look at the solutions governments and supra national governments propose - the solutions almost always involve higher taxes, more regulation and forced redistribution of wealth. If you can convince a population that the sky is falling and that the only solution is for them to pay more tax, people will beg to be taxed more.

The media need a good story, and catastrophic climate change fits the bill. Scientists need federal funding, so they keep telling politicians the worst case scenarios. I would look up what some recently retired climate scientists have to say on the matter as they have nothing to lose.

Also, of course climate change is real. I would be surprised if 1% didn't agree with that. But 99% of climate scientists certainly do not believe that man made Co2 emissions are going to cause dangerous global warming and even if they did, science is not done by consensus.

I hope Trump launches a huge investigation into climate change and we find out the truth. We know that he is a skeptic and has brought in a lot of right wing people, so if they use all their arguments and still deem climate change a big issue, then you know that shit is a serious problem.