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Bandorr said:
BMaker11 said:

Man, this is frustrating. My last response, and then I'm done. 

1. About alcohol: yes, I know it's legal. Hence the point of my comparison. Surely you didn't miss that point. Alcohol is way more detrimental to a person, much more damaging. Yet, it's legal, because we place the responsibility on the user and enact laws to punish those who are irresponsible. So, why is marijuana, which is medically safer in all aspects, illegal? The same arguments that keep alcohol legal logically make sense for marijuana

2. About IDs: you "find it hard to believe....."; for the last time, things that may not affect you, may affect others. You need to accept that. I don't expect too little of people. I'm empathetic to their position. Like I said, even I wasn't able to get an ID at first. You seem to lack that empathy. Just look at your statement saying you believe only state and military ID should be used. You are for more restrictive voter ID. Why is military ID ok, but not a college ID? Military ID doesn't show where you live at, and non-citizens can be in the military (albeit, they must be a green card holder). This falls right in line with Republicans finding out which IDs minority most often use, then making them ineligible to vote. 

3. About the ACLU: it seems you really think ACLU = Democratic platform. You really are misguided and stuck in your bubble, or at least, you only hear what you want to hear. Anyway, forget the KKK then. What about the Family Research Council? They lobby to make sure gays have absolutely 0 rights. They aren't "fringe". The Republican Party doesn't repudiate them. So that means their values represent the whole Republican Party, then. You look extremely silly when you say an interest group represents an entire party's values. You should know better. 

4. About National ID: it doesn't matter what you believe or how you feel. I've already given you the facts that show your belief on this issue is wrong. 

5. You'd think Democrats would be all for marijuana legalization, but as you've pointed out, Democrats in Arizona don't want it. Funny, just prior, you acted like everything was a monolith and because the ACLU is against National ID, and they're left wing, then all (or most) Democrats are against National ID. Yet, in your own backyard, there's proof that it's not a monolith on a particular issue. So, why is it that when the ACLU is against something, it means most Democrats are against it; but when actual Democratic voters in your state didn't support  marijuana, it's not indicative of the rest of Democrats (as many more Democrats are for its legalization)? I know I said I'm done after this, so I shouldn't end with a question....but the cognitive dissonance here is astounding. 

Just to help put this in to perspective. You are arguing with someone who finds it fine to rape women and kids, but objects to lawyers DEFENDING those that the rapist.

No, you didn't read that wrong. The act of rape is ok, DEFENDING rape is ok. Once you let that lack of logic sink in you will truly realize just how absolutely pointless this argument you are having is.

So having had several discussions I can agree it is highly frustrating and you absolutely should quit - if anything for your sanity. Although I found your posts informative and well written.

woah. Not sure if such an opinion should slide so easily on VGChartz. I only checked the most recent page, so I didn't see anything about anyone supporting rape. if that's the case, I'm simply dumbfounded



 

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12/22/2016- Made a bet with Ganoncrotch that the first 6 months of 2017 will be worse than 2016. A poll will be made to determine the winner. Loser has to take a picture of them imitating their profile picture.