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deskpro2k3 said:
potato_hamster said:

Wrong. An atheist is someone who lacks belieif in a deity. Its is not the same as someone that beliefs there is no god. It's fine that you want to treat altheist as a religion, but all it demonstrates is your ignorance on the subject.

 

Now you're really starting to piss me off.. I never said atheist is a religion. What I said, now listen very close... What I said is  Atheist goes around preaching down your throat that God does not exist, while agnostic will remine skeptical.

 I give you an example like Sam Harris, and about what he does for a living, and you have the audacity to call me ignorant. Now go piss off, don't reply to me again.


You're the one claiming that Sam Harris "preaches". You might have said that you believe that atheism is a religion, but you certainly implied that you believe that is the case. Furthermore, you're still wrong about what you're using as definitions for "athiest" and "agnostic". You're incorrectly labelling an "athiest" as "someone who believes there is no god" and "agnostic" as "someone who is skeptical about whether or not a god exists".

There's no other way to say it. This is wrong. Your insult to being told that doesn't change the truth of that.

Again, (a)thiesm is the belief (or lack of belief) in a deity. (A)gnosticism is the belief (or lack of beleif) that you can know that a deity exists. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Sam Harris is an example of a very vocal gnostic athiest. The fact that you're using him as an example of what it means to be an atheist is the same as me using Fred Phelps as an example of what it means to be a christian, when we both know most athiests and christians aren't like either.