binary solo said:
The rape accusations are not credible. If they were then Bill would have been prosecuted. If prosecutors have found there is insufficient evidence to convict then for all purposes Bill is innocent. Accusations of rape that only lead to trial by media should be ignored. You can't tell me there isn't enough money and political influence on the right to get a rape case going in the courts. Do I believe Bill ever raped anyone? I have no idea, and neither do you. Ask any feminist what they think about false accusations of rape? False rape accusations are very damaging to women's causes, and they create a cry wolf mindset where actual rape victims are viewed with suspicion among police and prosecutors, especially in cases where there are no obvious signs of violence. You've failed to demonstrate that Hillary's actions are diametrically opposed to feminism. The rape thing is irrelevant. And how is it that Hillary's actions against women who did her wrong is unfeminist? Feminism does not require you to be all sweetness and light towards women who have wronged you? The way I see it, when there's an affair there are two guilty parties. The married person may arguably share the greater blame, but the other person is not without blame. A morally upstanding person will say no the advances of a married person, and also will not pursue a married person. Where is the solidarity of sisterhood in someone who knowingly has sex with a married man? Surely the first betrayal of feminism was in dishonouring Hillary by having sex with her husband. But you could say that the mere fact that Hillary entered into marriage with a man is anti-feminist. So feminists whould not vote for a married woman, unless it's a lesbian marriage. What makes you the appropriate judge of consistency with feminism in Hillary's actions? About the only thing you can reasonably say is a betrayal of feminist principles is that Hillary didn't leave Bill. But does that make her persona non-grata with moderate feminists? And when it comes to the implementation of policy that will actually affect your life I would think voting for somone who panders to you but who's personal life does not live up to the ideal is better than voting for somone who regards you as an irrelevance. The perfect feminist candidate does not exist, therefore you vote for the one who is both realisitcally electable and least imperfect. If they want to vote for Jill Stein as a better feminist candidate that only serves to make trump getting in more likely. BTW, I imagine radical feminists are largely sitting this election out or voting Stein, since they probably do think Hillary is just another puppet of the patriarchy, who happens to have female plumbing. |
Hillary Clintons derogatory/damaging attacks on a long line of women whom Her husband had affars is not an opinion- They are well documented and With the possible exception of Hillary, I don t think anyone denies the affairs continue-
Like I said - it seems a certain amount of denial, maybe some ignorance of the Clintons history is oe way in which some people and prob many feminists reconcile these two differing messages- Or 1 is a message the other actions -
The other question i would think most feminist would struggle with is the fact that many of Bill Clinton s affairs have been public and over many years- Yet Hillary stays with him anyway- It woudl appear she is either very cio depedent or she has been/is afraid she can t realize her political ambitions with out holding tight to Bill s coat tails- again representing the opposite of what feisist say they stand for
The Clinton Foundation has also accpted tens of millions of dollars from Country s like Saudia Arabia and other who have (caopared to American feminists belefs) TERRIBLE human rights record and even worse policies toward women-
If anyone looks in any direction re Hillary Clintons ACTIONs relating to women they are the excatly what femisnts are strongly appossed to- That is not an opinion- A substantial record over a long period of time confirm her actions- even many of the Clintons biggest sppporters don t deny the contridictions- they may ignore them r try to recast them (Like the Washington Post article did)
