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JWeinCom on 24 August 2016
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zorg1000 said:
JWeinCom said:
Unless there is some absolutely amazing controller, or the base increases the power of this thing, then this is downright suicidal.

Nintendo's handheld audience doesn't really seem to care that much about power. When you look at the biggest handheld and mobile successes, graphics have played little to no role in the success.

For the console market, this thing is going to get basically zero third party support. Coming off the failure of the Wii U, considering the relative install bases, and considering historical performance of third party games on the NX, it's hard to make a good case for third party development.

What we have is a Wii U, except the gamepad can come with you. And while that's kind of neat, it's nowhere near enough to overcome the Wii U's many flaws.

Which is why I don't really believe in these rumors. It just seems too stupid to be true. It's possible that the rumors are partly true, or are missing some details that would make it make sense. As it is though, the picture they paint is simply awful. It's somewhat disconcerting that anyone is defending them.

I think you and many others are thinking about this device in the wrong way.

The primary purpose is to allow for a single device to get the combined the support of Nintendo's handhelds & consoles.

This device will likely get strong 3rd party support, just that it will primarily consist of Japanese, indie & family friendly games.

Anybody who honestly thought Nintendo was going to actively push for a device so that it could get things like Grand Theft Auto, Elder Scrolls, etc. had unrealistic expectations.

No, I'm thinking it in exactly the right way.  A system that will have Nintendo games and not much else. 

I'm not sure why you'd expect the system to have strong third party support.  Japanese support for the Wii U is nonexistant, and I'd hesitate to say the 3DS has strong third party support.  The biggest supporters have been Capcom and Squeenix, but even that has involved heavy promotion from Nintendo, which went as far as publishing certain games (Bravely 1/2 and Monster Hunters) in certain regions.  The third party support isn't bad, but it's not great either.

As for Nintendo pushing for a device that could get third party support, I don't think that's unreasonable at all.  The XBox One and PS4 weren't even cutting edge when they came out three years ago.  By now, it should be trivially easy to match them.

This kind of reminds me of the XBox One launch with its focus on multimedia.  Those features made a lot of sense for Microsoft to be excited about, but they weren't what gamers wanted or needed.  Same here.  It definitely makes sense for Nintendo to want to have a unified system, but the benefits for gamers aren't quite there. 

A simple question.  Outside of the existing base of 3DS and Wii U owners (probably around 60-65 million) who exactly is this going to appeal to?  How is this going to bring in new players?  As a fan of Nintendo games, I'll buy the product, and I'll probably love it.   As a fan of Nintendo as a company, who wants them to stay in the dedicated hardware industry, I hate it.  Of course, that's all assuming the rumors are true.