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RolStoppable said:

It's not confusing at all that there are difficulties to compare the Wii and Wii U head-to-head in many aspects. That's what should give you a big clue why Wii was successful while Wii U was not. They are two very different products, and the Wii U was poorly conceived. No amount or kind of marketing could have turned it into a success story. People go on and on about how there was confusion and that Nintendo needed to explain the Wii U more and better, but when it comes to selling any kind of product, a good salesman knows that things get troublesome as soon as a product needs to be explained. The best kind of product is one that can sell itself, i.e. the usefulness and purpose should be evident to potential customers via a very short presentation of what the product does and can do.

In practical terms, we can look at how Nintendo presented the Wii and Wii U at E3 conferences. In 2006 Nintendo had Wii Sports (tennis specifically) and that game alone got everything across in a few seconds. Before Nintendo could even go on to tell everyone more about the Wii, people were already sold on it. In 2012 Nintendo had Nintendo Land (Luigi minigame specifically) and that needed a longwinded explanation to prepare people for what was going to happen and further explanation during the gameplay demonstration to tell what was actually happening. That is in a nutshell why the Wii U sucked so hard.

Should Nintendo now after four years of Wii U again try to sell the screen controller idea with NX, they will doom themselves because those four years of Wii U have resulted in almost nothing of value as far as TV + controller screen go. Like I said in the previous post, the Eurogamer rumor does not suggest that Nintendo intends to sell the screen controller idea again. But since you think that Nintendo will try to do it regardless and succeed at it because the Wii U was actually not a bad product... I am at a loss for how I should complete this sentence without getting moderated.

I think we are not communicating well, rather specifically, I'm doing a horrible job at saying what I mean.

We basically agree on WiiU but with clashing wording. I'm saying it was a bad 'vision' but technically a great game console if you 'get' it.  You're saying its a bad 'product' because it shouldn't be complicated to 'get'. I totally agree with you on that. WiiU was a confusing concept where Nintendo could not create a marketable vision, but the game console itself is awesome (to me).

What I'm not saying or at least not intending to say, is that NX is a new WiiU. What I am saying is that NX is a new game console where players who liked the off-TV gameplay will like the portability functionality of the NX without losing typical portable or home console user experience.

What was the one feature anyone who liked the WiiU said was 'awesome'? The ability to play away from TV.

Nintendo tried to make it about disrupted play where the gamepad gives different / improved experience over the TV alone. This was where the vision and in your wording, the product failed to deliver. I can count on one had the number of games that actually did this idea well.

With NX they are recognizing the only reason to want a screen in a controller... portability. 

My statements from a few years ago are the same. NX is a game console with portable and home console functionality. You get a solid portable experience that only Nintendo can actually do well plus the power and typical controller of a home console by using a dock / supplemental device.

 

Use Cases:
As a hermit gamer who glows in the dark, I want to play on my couch-bed on a 120" projection screen so that I can play the same way I play every other console I own.
- Done. NX connects to TV and utilizes ProController.

As a portable gamer who is hunchback, I want to play on my daily bus ride to school so that I can play the same way I have played since I was five.
- Done. NX has portabilty functionality similar to all Nintendo hardware using carts and/or digital.

As a god among men, I want to play my games anywhere and everywhere solely based on my mood at the time so that my gamer life is as true and free as a fat-man at an open buffet.
- Done. Play at work, in bed, on couch with 120" projection screen, on toilet, during sex, w.t.f ever you damn well please. Same game library anywhere.

 

That is how Nintendo markets NX. It shows people playing on a huge TV,  pausing to rush to school/work/sex party, grabbing devices off of cool looking dock and continuing to play as they walk away. They walk out to the audience at the end of the presentation handing them NX devices or handing them controllers to play the same game on a TV. Back to Wii marketing of Wii want to play .. anywhere. Show NEW games that are clearly not Wii-clones. Show people playing with a normal controller as well as on a bus. Show people in bed, outside at pool, at work ... whatever. Just show them playing the same amazing looking Zelda, Mario, Metroid, FIFA, Madden, COD games everywhere.

You don't have to explain that, its clear as Wii Sports.