Nintendo of America: "Grab a Wii U while you can"

[DonFerrari]

RolStoppable said:

DonFerrari said:

Yep, and people is ok with paying those prices... but for some reason complain about the price of the HW.

That's a matter of perception of the medium as a whole. Video game hardware will inevitably age and become outdated, but video game software does not necessarily. If you look at it that way, then it stands to reason to put a (much) higher value on games.

DonFerrari said:

Then no one can complain, unless the people that have been waiting zelda through all the delays.

Some people like to complain for the sake of complaining. And if someone bought a Wii U solely for Zelda, then they should learn the lesson that they shouldn't buy the hardware before the one game they want is available because a lot of things could happen. It isn't unlike people who bought a launch PS3 in anticipation of Final Fantasy XIII and pretty much only that, only to see that the PS3 dropped to $300 from the original $600 by the time the game finally released. That's $300 being wasted, just like buying a Wii U for Zelda is when the console could have been skipped in favor of NX.

SW is dated same as HW, and you need both to play games... and a hardcore gamer buy like 20-100 games a gen the price of the SW is much more relevant than HW, HW price should only be a concern for casual players that purchase less than 5 games (well those would also be people that complain that the games aren't worth how much they ask for it). I value the tangible machine much more, but that is me.

And sure, I agree some people just want to complain, doesn't matter why. And sure any dumb person that buy a console for a single game that isn't out yet deserves his imbecility. Because not only did they expend more money (because the console could even drop price or have a cheaper bundle with the antecipated game) but would also have a paperweight for a lot of time. Now if you do love Zelda or FF and bought before release because you also like the other games released it's ok and understandable to complain about delays, but it isn't the end of the world so no need to be too upset at devs. If it was up to devs and publishers they would certainly release earlier as possible to collect the money.

RolStoppable said:

midrange said:

Lol, first off the neo and the xbox scorpio are new concepts. The ability to support 4k gaming hasn't been done yet for consoles. But they are not replacing the current gen because the current gen is still selling.

As for the NX, Nintendo has always said that the NX would not replace the wii u:

"The NX is neither the successor to the Wii U nor to the 3DS", said Kimishima (as translated by NeoGAF user GSR). "It's a new way of playing games, which I think will have a larger impact than the Wii U, but I don't feel it's a pure replacement for the Wii U."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/16/nintendo-president-nx-is-not-the-successor-to-the-wii-u-nor-to-the-3ds

"That being said, I can assure you we're not building the next version of Wii or Wii U"

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/12/nx_wont_be_the_next_version_of_wii_or_wii_u_says_nintendo_president_tatsumi_kimishima

But now we are replacing the wii u with the NX being the successor. Of course I could always find more sources, but before I spend more time on this, I'd like to see your sources that claim the NX was always meant to replace the wii u.

Higher resolution for video games is not a new concept. That has been done several times before.

The first quote you provided says neither Wii U or 3DS which is the same thing Iwata said. A new way to play games (a brand new concept) obviously refers to control input while "pure replacement" doesn't divert from what Iwata said before either. Kimishima is merely repeating what Iwata said. The words are slightly different because the translation isn't an official one from Nintendo.

The second quote means that the Wii brandname will be dropped. Nintendo systems have had various names, so a new Nintendo system having a different name and succeeding an old system isn't anything new either. Considering how the Wii U sold, it's no surprise that Nintendo would drop the Wii brand.

As for my sources, the already provided quotes do the job already. Your interpretation of the quotes is flawed, that's all. You are on a sales website, you know how terrible the Wii U is selling, so why would you expect that NX won't succeed the Wii U? Why would Nintendo spend additional resources on Wii U games when the system is as good as dead? NX was always going to succeed both the Wii U and 3DS since Nintendo had already talked about combining their R&D departments for home consoles and handhelds, because the technological differences weren't as pronounced as they were before, so keeping home consoles and handhelds as separate entities wouldn't make sense anymore. The benefits would also apply to game development, hence why NX was not to replace 3DS or Wii U, but rather 3DS and Wii U.

Nintendo had to find a way to support both a home console and a handheld with first party games on a more consistent basis, and when you know that, you can make the next logical step and rule out that Nintendo will support 3DS, Wii U and NX all side by side. When NX launches, the end of 3DS and Wii U will be near. Nintendo won't support three separate platforms, but only one that consists of a home console device and a handheld device. That platform is NX.

You can read up on Nintendo's Q&A sessions with investors on this website. Scroll through the newsfeed and look for "Q&A" to access the various sessions. The earliest hints at NX date back to early 2014, so a good year before it was announced. Early hints include the mention of combining R&D departments for home console and handheld, measures to improve the quantity of first party software output and the intention to redefine what a video game platform is in a good two years (that would be 2016, but alas, eventually NX got delayed). It may seem lazy that I don't point you directly to all NX-related information, but there have been a lot of Q&As over the years. Check it out if you are interested.

Just to complement. Nintendo have kept the same of HW when they succeded (NES to SNES and Wii to WiiU) in that generation and dropped when they lost relevance (as they did all the other times).