Clinton has clinched nomination-Also, Clinton or Trump?

[Kane1389]

Torillian said:

Kane1389 said:

Copy and paste from Steven Crowder's website

POLITICO – Bernie Sanders 18 Trillion New Spending

FORBES – The Biggest Military Budgets As Percentage Of GDP

THE BLAZE – Top 20% To Pay Nearly 72% Of Federal Tax Burden

WSJ – Greece Struggles To Get Citizens To Pay Their Taxes

TAX FOUNDATION – What Evidences Taxes And Growth

SALON – Wall Street Journal Bernie Sanders Piece Backfires. Single Payer Health System.

CONSUMERIST – Federal Student Loan Forgiveness Plans Cost Govt Nearly $22B More

MODERN HEALTHCARE – Medicaid Costing More Than Expected

WASHINGTON TIMES – Obamacare Premiums Spikes

SLATE – Healthcare Premiums Skyrocket

HUFFINGTON POST – Canada Free Healthcare

Fact References

• Sanders plan would cost $18 trillion: http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-proposals-18-trillion-1442271511
• Here’s our piece: http://louderwithcrowder.com/math-the-exact-price-tag-of-all-bernie-sanders-proposed-free-stuff/
• Sanders plan math problems: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/29/1388484/-Bernie-Sanders-big-idea-has-a-math-problem
• “even if one accepts that $6.5 trillion in taxes can be realized, that leaves us about $11.5 trillion short” http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/15/pricing-the-bern-wsj-puts-sanders-proposals-at-18-trillion-over-10-years/
• Examples of gov’t programs that cost more than expected:
  • Student loan forgiveness (90% over budget): http://consumerist.com/2015/02/06/federal-student-loan-forgiveness-plans-cost-govt-nearly-22b-more-than-expected/
  • New Medicaid beneficiaries: http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20150710/NEWS/150719984
  • Obamacare: http://www.wsj.com/articles/cost-of-covering-new-people-under-aca-significantly-higher-than-expected-1436571837
• Military funding:
  • Makes up 54% of discretionary spending: https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/military-spending-united-states/
  • However, military spending is only 18% of total budget: http://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go
  • Receives roughly same as Social Security, but less than medicare/medicaid: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/07/everything-chuck-hagel-needs-to-know-about-the-defense-budget-in-charts/
  • Strictly in terms of Dollars, we spend more on military than next seven countries, combined: http://pgpf.org/Chart-Archive/0053_defense-comparison
  • US ranks 4th worldwide with regard to military spending as a percent of GDP: http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2015/06/25/the-biggest-military-budgets-as-a-percentage-of-gdp-infographic-2/
  • Military spending has increased more in China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc. than in US last 7 years: http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2015/04/14/china-russia-military-spending-surges/25770921/
  • The US is dominant on the world stage for a reason: http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-defense-spending-by-country-2014-2
• Historical tax rates/consequences:
  • “High” tax rate myth of 1950’s: http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/ib_19.htm#.VhWLZHpViko
  • Nearly every empirical study of taxes and economic growth published in a peer reviewed academic journal finds that tax increases harm economic growth: http://taxfoundation.org/article/what-evidence-taxes-and-growth
    
  • Norway not a great example of high tax success: http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/why-norway-is-a-bs-argument-for-higher-taxes-8235/
  • Greece has 46% income tax rate… obvious how that worked out: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/greece/personal-income-tax-rate and government has trouble collecting taxes: http://www.wsj.com/articles/greece-struggles-to-get-citizens-to-pay-their-taxes-1424867495

 

 

Furthermore, other countries dont really have ''free'' healthcare, college etc etc... Money has to go from somewhere, and it comes from insanely high taxes that the citizens pay for their entire lives. So you get 5 years of ''free college'' and then you spend the rest of your life giving half of your earnings away so that the others can have 4 years of 'free education''. Here is a good video on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdYOjUqlcFA

Also, the reason many other coutries have ''free'' healthcare, college etc is because they spend almost virtually nothing on their defence. And the reason they do that is because they dont feel the need to, because the big bad imperialistic USA will cover their expenses and aid them, so that many ''liberal democrat'' western european countries can pretend to be the good pacifist, peaceful guys. In fact, I think I read somwhere that only 2 NATO members outside US (Poland and UK) pay their epected share on the military allience.

I'm not seeing the part that says that decreasing the military spending to zero from 682 billion a year would not pay for free college for all those current attending which comes out to 482 billion a year in tuition and room/board.  Where in all these links does it show that decreasing military spending to zero would not pay for free college as you claimed?

Let's ignore the part about how other countries can afford it.  Tell me how your statement makes sense from a standpoint of basic math.

Did I say just college only? I meant ''the free healthcare, expanded social security and 15$ minimum wage together with free college. Here's another video if dont want to look up all the sources i provided. Also, paying everyone's higher education now is not the same as having it be ''free'' for everyone forever thru taxes and cuts

https://youtu.be/e-8spGrLrUM?t=4m6s