| pokoko said: I never said it was about the gender. What are you talking about? And subjugation is automatically worse than being stabbed? That's interesting. Oh, yes, that's probably it, I wasn't being complicated enough, I should have put i a full page of qualifiers. Goddamn, people. Talk about sophistry and avoiding a point just to be contrary. It's not even worth trying to have a conversation. If you say a cat has soft fur someone will say, "but what if the cat was playing in tar in and got all crusty? That has to be considered." Fuck, you're right, he deserved to be stabbed. We'll just assume that. Conversation over. |
Wow, you really excel at ignoring the actual points people make, forming strawmen, arguing against those, and then being a dick about it all. And ironically, you complain about other people "avoiding a point".
Subjugation is something that people do consciously in order to dominate others, whereas violence is generally an impulsive action in which the person is out of control emotionally.
And while you never said it was about gender, the fact that you put "he" on the stabbing and "she" on the rape demonstrates that it's what you were thinking. Otherwise, you would have used "he" for both or "she" for both. And given that your overall point is that you believe that the identity of the person changes whether something is acceptable or unacceptable, I find it hard to believe that your point with that example was that people consider stabbing to be something you can blame the victim for.
The part where you go "Fuck, you're right, he deserved to be stabbed." demonstrates that either you are intentionally ignoring the point, or lack basic comprehension. The point being made is that being stabbed doesn't necessarily mean you're the victim, whereas being raped always makes you the victim. Note that if you said "you were raped there, you should stop going there" isn't victim blaming. It's only the accusation that they were at fault for the rape because they were there that is completely unacceptable. And ultimately, as I said, it would generally be considered unacceptable in the case of stabbing, too - it's just not seen as being quite as bad as making the statement in the case of rape.
Because the world isn't about black and white absolutes, it's not "this is acceptable, that is unacceptable", it's "this is worse than that, but both are wrong".
But clearly, you aren't capable of understanding nuance.
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