Soundwave said:
edugamer said:
As I posted in the MS forum
MS has several intriguing options for revisions and new consoles right now.
There are 3 reasonable options for a slim.
1. Die shrink with no changes and price drop to $249
2. Die shrink, turn on additional 2 CU, upgrade to faster DDR4 memory, and up the upclock 2.1 Ghz
a. This should be more than sufficient to have a slight performance edge on PS4 and have support a consistent 1080P at $279
3. Update GPU to Polaris 11 (20 CU), keep esRAM, 2.1 GHz system clock, and switch to GDDR5x at 320 GB/s
a. This would be substantially better than the PS4, capable of 1080p60 and 1440p30, $299
All of the slims should have a flash-based, digital only version for $50 cheaper
For XB2 there are lots of options, some of which depend on which version of the slim they use.
If they select 1 above, then it may be prudent to offer a Polaris 10 this year. If they go with 2, then they could offer a Polaris 10 or wait. If they go with 3, then they should likely wait for Vega and HBM2.
1. Polaris 10 at $399 this fall
a. 36 CU, 8GB GDDR5x at 320 GB/s, possibly esram if needed, 12-16 2.1 GHz jaguar, System clock at 1050 / 2100
i. Performance equivalent to 3.7 TF (36 CU at 800) X 1050 mhz / 800 mhz X 1.4 increase in IPS = ~ 6.7 TF (4.9) equivalents of existing console performance
ii. Maybe something like 12 jags for games and 4 jags plus 4 GB lpDDR4 for system
iii. 4K capable
2. Polaris 10 at $499 this fall
a. Same as above but up memory to 12GB @ 480 GB/s, up CU to 54, zen cores, ~ 10 TF equivalent
b. Crush 4K at 60 FPS
3. Wait for Vega next fall at $499
a. 16 GB HBM2, 72 CU, Zen, 12 TF actual, 16 TF GCN 1.1 equivalents
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I think they should wait for Vega next fall. But even 8 TF would be enough. Just make the hardware upgradable this time.
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I agree. I think that they should take option 3 slim @ $299 this year to position it right between PS4 and PS4K and able to equal PS4K at 1080p60. That would give them a machine that is the same price as the base PS4 with roughly 2+X the real world performance.
Then fall 2017 introduce a Vega monster at $499 capable of 4K 60 FPS and put the slim to $249, $199 for digital only version.
