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vivster said:
Synesthesia said:

THAT. That is what people are currently defending. They defend it against a different system where you just buy a new phone and keep all your stuff and just benefit from the new hardware.

Not going to quote the wall of text there but at-least your replay brings better perspective of your mind set then before.

 

So this is less about pushing the PS neo and more about something you never liked about consoles in the first place... Would come across better if it excluded the agenda pushing through analogy's imo.

Anyway allot of what you seem to have a problem with and what things you like pretty much point that you should want a platform like Steam on PC, but each of the big 3 having their own separate platform in a console form. I really don't see how this would be progress given the consoles plug and play for years style is what popularized them and they are outright dependent on it, multiple sku's with better hardware starts fragmenting this immediately. Not to mention what you want is a dumbed down Steam box.

Compatibility despite being something we'd all like and yes I know it's something often complained about not having backward compatibility. Does not justify the thoughts of having 2-3 year cycles. The big problem with this is that unlike PC consoles have predefined hardware its not an upgrade. You will have to buy a whole new PS4 if you want a PS neo. So the idea of progress goes out the window for these being anything other then a shitty closed PC (note PC as a better alternative) that ironically in time become MORE costly then having gotten a PC. If they wanted to start a cycle of compatible systems this is not the way to do it imo. 

If they wanted to start systems that were easily compatible like this, they could easily have done it with the base PS4 an continued after 5 or so years with a PS5. Putting in low end CPU's overclocked or not with a GPU upgrade with a whole new box after so little time is what id consider anti-consumer. This isn't an upgrade like PC. Trying to push demand for a more powerful box when they have barely started with the base PS4 and then demanding games have a a mode for both is craziness. The base model within 1 or 2 years will be pushed down while the toxicity of buying a brand new box continues. Support for the games will only diminish not stay the same and it wont get better. Performance and games will suffer. Ever hear us PC folks complain about shitty ports. I bet you have. Except the base PS4 has a set standard while PC games are all over the place. Sacrifices will happen to hit the required targets. Even though requiring a brand new system isn't needed for this direction (PC proves this).

 

It seems to me the part that you are missing is the toxcity behind the way its BEING done and how soon its being done. Making references to other products doesn't hold up depending on the reasons for it. It's a toxic road Sony are heading down. Thats why people don't like this. Unlike back when I only laughed at Microsoft for trying to make people pay to play online, they ended up succeding. This time I'll actually voice an opinion of concern.

Perhaps now you understand atleast a little bit better why some of us are not happy? I made my attempt to reason with you. =