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ninjapirate42 said:
Jumpin said:
Soundwave said:
LordLichtenstein said:

What do you guys think it did Tuesday?

I think $37.7M

Say bye bye to Avatar if that's that case at least domestically. 

I don't "hate" Avatar, it's a competent movie, that's just been done better like 3 or 4 times before (Dances With Wolves is far better) and I think it's honestly James Cameron's weakest film. 

Well that's BS, have you even seen Avatar? How is it the same story as Dances with Wolves? Is it because they both have some sort of a native in it that the protagonist befriends?

This is like saying that Force Awakens is the same story as Titanic because they both have a ship in it. Or that Force Awakens is the same as Sparticus because they're both about a resistance against an Empire.

Let's be real, Avatar is a totally different genre of film than than Dances with Wolves and also a much better film.

 

In all fairness there are many, many, many articles showing the similarities between Avatar and Dances with Wolves.

 

They're not even the same genre. One is a historical drama, the other is a sci-fi action.

One is about about a US civil war fighter who gets posted in some other part of the US, he gets waylaid by natives on the way to his post, and they kill the guy who can verify who he is. So because he can't go to his post, and he is in danger of being scalped, he chooses to go to a rival native tribe for protection. He helps the friendly native tribe against the enemy native tribe. When he goes back to civilization he gets attacked for looking native.

The other has a soldier, Sully blasting off to a moon on a foreign planet in order to pilot an avatar alongside a team of scientists who are documenting the natural wonders of the planet, which behaves as a giant super-organism. There are other corporate forces who employ the military, Sully's superior officers, and they are after unobtanium (a mcguffin for a valuable and desirable treasure). The military uses Sully as a spy in order to gather intel on the dominant species of alien inhabitants, the Na'vi. The avatar which Sully pilots looks just like a Na'vi, in fact, they don't realize he's a human. The military discovers a huge deposit of unobtanium, which just happens to be below the central nervous system of the super-organism planet. The military moves in for the attack in order to take the site, but Sully has fallen in love with the Na'Vi and the planet, and insteads works with the Na'vi and the scientists to help the planet defend itself. A huge battle takes place where mechs are sent in to fight against the forces of the planet (the planet itself, as mentioned, is like a giant super-organism). In the end, Jake's left an outcast with a dying human body, but the planet (implied that it is due to his aid) decides to take his mind, and put it into the body of a Na'vi so he can live on.

In addition to all of that. Avatar was a monumental breakthrough in special effects which has not been equaled to this day. It is a mix of real world and art, some of which is photo-realistic to the point that people can't tell what is live action and what is not. It also kicked off the transformation of movie theatres from an old fashioned 2D experience into the 3D experiences they are today. Some people resent this, as they are too stubborn to let the past go, and so there is a bias against Avatar.

Bottom line, saying the two are the same thing is a gigantic stretch. Inaccurate, in other words. Just bullshit biased and/or ignorant people believe.



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