But Kwaad therea are some users that like the PS3 as myself ,you ,roadkillers ,stormprophet ,washimul and some others and we keep hanging around .Things arent THAT bad ,I know a lot of forums that are in a way worse state with the X360 and Wii fanboys invading each and every PS3 new trying to say the PS3 will dissappear ,its selling like crap ,the HD-DVD is beating BR and funny shit like that .