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And you don't think he Grey should be banned for making a controversial title that he knew would end up in a flame war? I mean come on he directly called HD console owners desperate. It's like if I made a title "SMG review scores show Nintendo fans like it up the Butt" and then my actual thread was fine but obviously my title was meant as flame bait. I understand you can't change the title after you've made it, but that's why you should give it a little bit of thought before hand.