Microsoft “completely discounted Nintendo” when launching Xbox 360

[Mr Puggsly]

teigaga said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

Mr Puggsly said:

You've somehow misconstrued my post.

I'm basically saying Sony would have crushed any competition unless it was a big company that was willing to throw money around like Sony.

MS spent a lot of money to challenge Sony directly, not many were willing to do that.

oh I see.  Still I think Nintendo took risks and was doing fine financially to challenge Sony.  I'm not that big into online stuff which is mainly what we have to thank MS for as far as consoles go.  I also kinda loathe them for making two weapon limits and regen health a standard in FPS games due to their most popular franchise always going that route.  Oh well at least online folks can enjoy their advancement in that area of the industry and there are other genres for me to enjoy than FPS

I feel with N64 and beyond Nintendo decided to focus gaming experiences Sony wasn't offering or didn't do as well. Hence, Nintendo got the hell out the way of Sony. SNES was the Playstation of the 4th gen. Nintendo became something else after that.

MS came in wanting to take on Sony directly and had undeniable success. Even the people that hate Xbox should atleast admit they made Sony better because they forced them to work harder. I can't say Nintendo did the same. Even now Nintendo makes little effort to compete with Xbox and Playstation.

Do you not think N64 differentiated itself back then,  Nintendo's unique 1st party portfolio especially with Rare, its superior control pad and PC ports which weren't possible on playstation hardware. The Gamecube however didn't offer anything gaming wise that the PS2 didn't. I loved the platform but the gamecube didn't even have great platformers lol. It didn't excel the PS2 in anyway other then its graphical capabilities.

PS2's JRPGs, Action games, adventure games, fighting games >>>>

Xbox's FPS's, Western RPGS >>>>

Gamecube??? (Party games?)

Don't forget OG Xbox generally had the best ports. Xbox ports generally ran a lot better and looked a generation ahead. Gamecube often had an edge on ports over PS2 as well.

Maybe you're missing what I'm saying. With N64 and beyond Nintendo differentiated itsellf because it wasn't doing a good job competing directly against Sony.

Gamecube shined by having notable 1st party games. It also did a better job at getting 3rd party support than N64.

1	Super Smash Bros. Melee	GC	2001	Fighting	Nintendo	4.41	1.04	1.39	0.22	7.07
2	Mario Kart: Double Dash!!	GC	2003	Racing	Nintendo	4.12	1.77	0.87	0.19	6.95
3	Super Mario Sunshine	GC	2002	Platform	Nintendo	4.01	1.26	0.87	0.17	6.31
4	The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker	GC	2002	Action	Nintendo	2.60	0.99	0.89	0.13	4.60
5	Luigi's Mansion	GC	2001	Action	Nintendo	2.38	0.67	0.46	0.10	3.60
6	Animal Crossing	GC	2001	Simulation	Nintendo	1.92	0.16	0.99	0.09	3.15
7	Metroid Prime	GC	2002	Shooter	Nintendo	1.96	0.67	0.10	0.09	2.82
8	Sonic Adventure 2 Battle	GC	2001	Platform	Sega	1.70	0.59	0.21	0.07	2.56
9	Pokémon Colosseum	GC	2003	Role-Playing	Nintendo	1.21	0.57	0.70	0.07	2.54
10	Mario Party 4	GC	2002	Misc	Nintendo	1.13	0.36	0.92	0.07	2.47
11	Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door	GC	2004	Role-Playing	Nintendo	1.48	0.25	0.46	0.06	2.25
12	Mario Party 5	GC	2003	Misc	Nintendo	0.97	0.33	0.73	0.06	2.08
13	Sonic Mega Collection	GC	2002	Misc	Infogrames	1.47	0.48	0.05	0.06	2.05
14	Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II	GC	2001	Simulation	LucasArts	1.03	0.75	0.03	0.09	1.90
15	Star Fox Adventures	GC	2002	Adventure	Nintendo	0.96	0.53	0.30	0.09	1.87
16	Resident Evil 4	GC	2005	Action	Capcom	0.98	0.42	0.22	0.06	1.69
17	Mario Party 6	GC	2004	Misc	Nintendo	0.90	0.11	0.60	0.05	1.65
18	Pikmin	GC	2001	Strategy	Nintendo	0.78	0.25	0.56	0.04	1.63
19	Kirby Air Ride	GC	2003	Racing	Nintendo	1.01	0.11	0.45	0.04	1.62
20	Super Mario Strikers	GC	2005	Sports	Nintendo	0.98	0.38	0.20	0.04	1.61
21	Sonic Heroes	GC	2003	Platform	Sega	1.05	0.44	0.06	0.04	1.60
22	The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess	GC	2006	Action	Nintendo	1.15	0.36	0.04	0.04	1.59
23	Mario Party 7	GC	2005	Misc	Nintendo	0.95	0.11	0.46	0.04	1.57
24	Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour	GC	2003	Sports	Nintendo	1.09	0.15	0.25	0.04	1.53
25	Super Monkey Ball 2	GC	2002	Puzzle	Atari	1.11	0.31	0.06	0.04	1.52
26	SoulCalibur II	GC	2003	Fighting	Namco Bandai Games	0.99	0.32	0.11	0.08	1.50
27	Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles	GC	2003	Role-Playing	Nintendo	0.72	0.38	0.36	0.04	1.49
28	Super Monkey Ball	GC	2001	Puzzle	Atari	0.95	0.37	0.10	0.04	1.46
29	Mario Superstar Baseball	GC	2005	Sports	Nintendo	0.93	0.24	0.25	0.04	1.46
30	Resident Evil	GC	2002	Action	Capcom	0.63	0.38	0.35	0.05	1.42