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generic-user-1 on 25 May 2015
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Conina said:
Arkaign said:
curl-6 said:
They could have put out consoles in 2013 that were significantly more powerful than PS4/Xbone.
They chose not to because of how much money 360 and PS3 lost early on for being high end juggernauts. Their limitations are more the result of financial prudence than technological barriers.

I think the same financial prudence would have yielded massively more powerful consoles CPU wise by later this year or into next year. Jaguar is terrible.

Well, Zen won't be available on time for products in November 2015. If Microsoft and Sony had gambled on former promises of AMD, there would be a bad awakening.

The Zen-APUs are now promised for 2016 (and that could change again if problems should occur):

Home consoles are usually launched in the 4th quarter to have a good start (christmas spendings + highest output of AAA-titles), so Microsoft & Sony would have waited 36 months instead of 24 months with their 8th gen consoles... perhaps even 48 months if the Zen-APUs go in mass production at the end of 2016 instead of summer 2016.


we will see an zen playstation, fall 2018 the ps5...they need a short life for the ps4 they timed it realy badly, right into a stagnation phase.

thats why old cpus. a bigger first gen i5 is still enough to easyly beat the ps4 when combined with a modern gpu.