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burninmylight said:

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So you honestly believe the timing of the releases of MM and SW, along with the fact that they required extra hardware as a barrier to entry had nothing to do with their sales? Be honest.

Do I think WW or SS would have sold like TP if they released in TP's place? WW, no. SS, yes. Like I said, Wind Waker was hated with extreme prejudice before release because of Nintendo's bait-and-switch in 2001 with the Spaceworld demo. I know how it felt because I was one of those people. I hated the game without ever having played it until I finally gave it a try on a demo unit in Gamestop. Now, it's one of the most beloved Zelda games. Meanwhile, TP is scorned and panned as being unoriginal with ugly ass graphics and a horrible swordplay system on the Wii.

Skyward Sword would have absolutely been a commercial and critical success in 2005 (assuming the Wiimote could handle it at the time and didn't need the WM+). After all, it was a critical success in 2011, at the very end of the Wii's life. Go look up any review except Gamespot's.

You claim to be such a big Wii fan, yet you can't seem to remember the motion control craze that swept the world in 2005. We were absolutely swept up in the idea of 1:1 swordplay in the future and salivating for such a game. By the time SS released in 2011, that dream had waned and motion controls became a bad term, but imagine if it released right when it was the hot thing. People would have been rioting in the streets for some 1:1 swordplay Zelda.

The only reason TP sold the way it did was because a) It launched with the Wii, and people needed something to play besides Wii Sports, and b) it was the closest thing to realistic motion controlled combat out at the time. Why do you think Red Steel, a game that was complete trash, sold so well? Because a) It launched with the Wii, and people needed something to play besides Wii Sports, and b) it was the closest thing to realistic motion controlled combat out at the time. So what, are you telling me that Red Steel 1 is superior to Skyward Sword and Wind Waker because it has a realistic and "mature" art style?

People got used to the Wind Waker's graphics pretty quickly - they weren't that bad. Skyward Sword though looks so generic and cartoonish, but not the good kind of cartoon (like Wind Waker). It just looked... bland.

That's why during the Skyward Sword reveal people were like "Huh?" Compared to Twilight Princess which nearly broke down the internet. I remember those days. People were so excited about TP's art style. It's what sold the game. If Skyward Sword had been released instead of it, it wouldn't have got nearly as much hype. The fact is it didn't get really any hype when it was released at all.

Once again, watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE2Dc1sx71U

Then compare it to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhmcBXgnrC8 (go to the 2:20 mark)

The first video pretty much explains everybody's reaction. By the way, that video was before the Wii reveal. When a fan made Twilight Princess with Skyward Sword graphics pretty much everyone said it was terrible.

Skyward Sword's art style was very dull. It had a Saturday morning cartoon vibe to it.